Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Will the 224 Valkyrie go the same way as the Wssm?

I hope it does well as well. The grendel boys are deeply hurt due to their superior case or cases and what not, but anything that will fire in a std ar and cast a 100 grain bullet at 2700 fps seems like an improvement over the 5.56

How many will actually shoot 90gr bullets out of this thing? There are at least 4 other 224 cartridges that are faster with bullets up to 80gr. 80gr VLDs at 3000-3050 or 90s at 2700? Is it a varmint cartridge or a long range paper puncher? I agree with some,the 22 Nosler is too long to use long bullets and the 224V is too short causing lose of powder capacity.
I talked to some of the bigger companies at SHOT last year, they said the Grendel bolt was a liability that they did not want to take a chance on. Some hinted the mags were issues too.

There are already several 6mms based on the 6.8 and Grendel, that will be the next phase for the ammo companies.

All I know is I saw over 4000 fps with a 50 grain NBT in the 223wssm and 75 gr Amax's fit at mag length. Give me the 223AI over the Nosler any day.

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I sure would like to know the truth about the grendel bolt weakness problem, several members swear there is no problem but then you hear it from different sources. Then you hear about the feeding problems as well...

When they first came out, I think it was a big problem, just look at how thin that metal is around the recessed area of the bolt. But I think it has been solved with better designs and better steel.

http://www.msrhunt.com/post/grendel-bolts-still-breaking-6820032

A quick search found the above link and it has some interesting reading (even mentions squaring the receiver) but in short 9310 is a better steel thAN what some makers are using. But then they mention Leitner Wise of LWRC and I 'remembered "hip fired gun" who turned out to be an employee posting on arfcom on as a gov't tester so who knows.

Buy a good bolt and barrel then see what happens I guess.

As for the 6.8 .case, it doesn't handle pressure when necked down and souped up. The Grendel might be the answer.

The 6.8 necked down to .224 -20" barrel will send a 80 Berger down range at 3000fps with 28gr N540.
Peterson out of middle Tenn shot a 4.5" group at 1200yds with one a few years ago at Strategic Edge.

Nosler and Remington brass can't handle the pressure but S&B, SSA and Fed seem to do fine.

Cousin bought a DTECH upper in 22 DTI and the SSA brass didn't hold up either, neither did Hornady. Mike emailed him max loads and cousin thought he was playing it safe but Mike's info was spot on. In fairness it did a better job with heavier bullets but still nothing to brag about unless you wanted to leave your brass on the ground,

I still say the 223wssm was as good as it got, heck it's got more powder capacity than my 22-250ai but it still failed miserably.

The 6WOA was probably the best use for the SPC case for a hunting gun anyway.

Exactly. If they would have gone with a shorter case with the capacity of the Grendel it would have been a better suited design for the heavies. The 6.8 case is just too long for the heavier smaller diameter bullet. I went through that when shooting 6mm necked down versions of both. The 6mm Grendel out shinned the 6mm SPC in function and performance when it came to the 95gr VLD's and heavier.

nice video 1300 yard supersonic

https://youtu.be/6HxQa6E7tm8

Rifle makers to include Barrett, CMMG, JP Enterprises, LaRue Tactical, LMT Defense, LWRC, MasterPiece Arms, Mossberg, Q LLC, Savage and Seekins Precision are all reportedly working on bringing offerings using the new cartridge to market.

I am sure if they used the grendal case it would have been better...

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