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Shooting left, brand new gun, shoots tight groups but left. Tried 3 different powders all grouped the same as pictured. This is from a rest @ 10 yards.
Send it back or live with it? Don't know if Uberti covers sight regulation or not. BTW, this thing is tight and has a slick buttery smooth action :grin

I wouldn't send back a gun that shoots well. Not that the factory will mess it up, but tightening the barrel to bring the groups right could cause a choke in the barrel and ruin accuracy. I would take a jewelers file to the range and take a few swipes on the rear sight, shoot to see the effect on POI and repeat until the windage was corrected.. I have an S&W mdl 10 that shot left and a few swipes of a file to get rid of a burr in the rear sight slot and slightly open up the slot was all that was needed to get the windage zeroed.

Send it back. They can do better.

Does your grip have anything to do with it?

No and i can adjust for bullseye just a tad aggrivating.

Beautiful peacemaker...

I'd be torn about sending it back. Maybe.
Just maybe file judiciously on the rear sight...

Send it back. I think they will just turn the barrel if it's shooting left. I sent my Uberti back that was shooting right, IIRC. In that case they replace the barrel - which they did. 100% send it back immediately. It wasn't that model but similar. My El Patron shoots great. Send that target with it.

Try another Handload. With another powder. Different loads shoot to different POA. I've done this with many of my SAA that didn't shoot to POA. I'd try some Tite Group.

If the groups are that tight I would just take a little at a time from the right side of the rear sight and call it good when it is centered if that is going to be your primary load. Judging by the group size I would think it wood be. Just go real slow and a little at a time

I have a Cattleman from the same company that I bought back around 1988. It printed in exactly the same place. Probably not a recommended fix, but I carefully bent the front sight to the left, and got it to shoot dead center in terms of windage.

That is a good looking and accurate single action, Ron.

I love the bombproof simplicity of fixed sights and I am OCD when it comes to zero. I ain't happy until the bullet land on the center of the front sight at 50 paces.

I've had probably a dozen fixed sight single actions that shot a little left and needed corrected. Original Vaqueros are often left shooters. If they're hitting left the barrel needs screwed in a tad. I've done that, adjusted the rear notch to filed the front sight on one side. I've put the barrel in a padded vise and applied hammer & punch diplomacy to the front sight. Often I used a combination of the three to accomplish getting them zeroed.

TRH and Sarge are right.

Not to sound snitty, but...

1. That group at 30 ft is good, but nothing spectacular--it's certainly nothing uncommon, so I'd send the gun back. But before you do...

2. Has somebody else shot it? (Again, not trying to be unkind, but I'd have somebody else shoot it just to make sure it isn't you. Plus, the manufacturer is more likely to be receptive to an alleged accuracy issue if 2 or 3 guys all get the same results from the gun.)

Good luck! I hope you get it worked out!

High is a problem too, as you can't fix that with a file. Shoot it a bunch without a rest and see where t really shoots. A rest can alter POI.

That

7.5 Grains of Unique is a very mild load. My .45 Colt loads in the Single Action Army start closer to 8.5. I'd bet if you tried that, you'd be perfect elevation wise. Still, at 10 yards, your bullet is still climbing, so at 25 yards, your current load and hold will be considerably higher!

I wouldn't make any changes at 10 yards. I'd only make changes after I've fired the weapon at the ranges I expect to be using it.

Dan beat me to the keyboard. I run 8.5 of Universal under 255's. Gassing that load up, within safe limits, will help correct elevation. So will switching to a 230 grain bullet.

Upped the charge to 8.3grs of Unique, rotor 17. Elevation is pefect now but still shoots left about an inch or so. I'm not sending it back but will try filing the rear sight a touch as suggested. If someone could put me on the correct file i need it would help alot, relly don't know exactly what i need. I suppose a little cold blue will hide the file marks, right?

Try less finger on the trigger first (assuming you are right handed). Also, shoot it on an overcast day, as sun direction affects POI as you see the sights differently.

Glad that corrected your elevation.

I have a couple of tiny pillar files I got from Brownells long ago and they've handled my sight notch work real well, I don'r recall the product # but they're about 3/16 wide, 0.100 thick. fine cut and with a safe edge on both sides.