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biggest boat loads of bull crap in history?
Any opinions?
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One of the most inept was Lee Hoots, IMO.
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I wonder whatever happened to him? Haven't seen a book or article by him in many years.
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Zumbo has to be there somewhere.....and yes, I get that he was a hunting writer who occasionally wrote gun articles.
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I know a lot of members here love em both but I've thought for years that like unions, gun writers out grew their usefulness years ago. Course, that's just my opinion so please feel free to hurl insults and call me names for having one that may differ from yours
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I wonder whatever happened to him? Haven't seen a book or article by him in many years. It has been written that he got drummed out of the business for a variety of reasons, including selling guns and ammo that had been sent to him for testing. IIRC, Dogzapper had a good story about a rifle that Kimber of Oregon sent to Clay, but Clay sold it and the guy who he sold it to contacted KofO about it. It has also been written that he "borrowed" a lot of his "experience" from other people, but so did Peter Hathaway Capstick and PHC is generally thought of as a good story teller.
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There used to be a TV show of "experts", one for shotgun, pistol and rifle. Can't remember the names, but the rifle guy was a complete dumba$$.
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I'll second this nomination; Clay Harvey just regurgitated other writers words and ideas and finally "retired" to the out-lands. Does anyone know is whereabouts or what's he's up to?
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I know a lot of members here love em both but I've thought for years that like unions, gun writers out grew their usefulness years ago. Course, that's just my opinion so please feel free to hurl insults and call me names for having one that may differ from yours Why would anyone do that?
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I know a lot of members here love em both but I've thought for years that like unions, gun writers out grew their usefulness years ago. Course, that's just my opinion so please feel free to hurl insults and call me names for having one that may differ from yours There are still a few good ones. The problem is the magazines have seemed to water down the length and content of the articles are gear them more towards vehicles to present their advertisers wares than provide information.
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I know a lot of members here love em both but I've thought for years that like unions, gun writers out grew their usefulness years ago. Course, that's just my opinion so please feel free to hurl insults and call me names for having one that may differ from yours. The internet is putting the printed word out of business pretty quickly. So, I agree with you. Most of them are simply just paid product reviewers now. The thing is, I tend to trust reviews over the internet by guys that really know what they are doing more than paid gun writers that review products now. They can add me to the list for name calling now too!
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biggest boat loads of bull crap in history?
Any opinions? The list has too many contenders to narrow it down to just one. How about a top 10 list? I have always looked at most gun-writers just another form of fiction. They are no different than a car salesman, it is their job to convince you that you need the latest-and-greatest item that just came out. I have met quite a few during the years and generally speaking if they weren't gun writers they would probably be working at "Honest Joe's Used Cars". drover
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Elmer Keith did spout a lot of grandiose thoughts (he was slightly full of himself, as well), but he did have a wealth of experience in a time when experimentation was not well organized in the firearms industry. So many of the advances started with guys like Keith.
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I knew Bill Jordan and spent a bit of time with him in the late '70s and '80s. Jordan had a high opinion of Elmer Keith.
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No one person in particular but a trend being embraced by many, writers and TV hosts. I understand that the long range hunting equipment suppliers are hot and sexy and evidently rich. But ......STOP!! ......selling this crap that you can spend thousands of dollars on gadgets and that will automatically make you capable of long range shooting. Rather you would spend your time and energy and visibility convincing people to learn to HUNT.
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Ha! Keith is the one that made the most sense out of all of them!
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Zumbo and Clay Harvey are in a class by themselves in BS levels. Chuck Taylor's writing seem to contain some out and out fabrications. He also seems to think his rather unusual handgun techniques are the best for everyone.
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