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I like the Hunter, but like the Montana better. Well, yeah. Folks ask me if I'll sell one of my Montanas, I tell them they need to buy their own. Most of these folks have no idea how to go about buying a used Montana off the internet, so they buy new.
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My hunting would not change one bit if all I had was a hunter. I have an itch for a 308 and the hunter might get the nod .
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance.
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. Nope. Not even a little chance.
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Still can't figure out why they didn't do a blind mag and aluminum TG, it's not like they didn't have the parts laying around.
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. If you say so... The sad thing is, most savage axis will outshoot most tikkas, at almost half the price. Sure, tikkas shoot decent, but it's basically a Walmart shoppers dream gun. I get the cost issue, but around here the cost of fuel for most hunters in a season, dwarfs any price difference between any of the guns mentioned.
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I think that the Hunter is a good value for what it is particularly considering that it's a technically more difficult rifle to make compared to many other bolt actions and has a quality action, barrel, bolt and trigger coupled with a stainless steel magazine tube and one of the best magazine releases in the industry. Tikka has an advantage over Kimber with factory ammunition given the heavier barrel and increased rigidity of the receiver, but for the handloader that advantage goes away completely so it comes down to aesthetics, weight, function and cost. I'd rather own, carry, shoot and hunt with a rifle that has character and shoots well and so that's why I own four Kimber rifles and why I bought my gf an 84M Montana last year that shoots factory Hornady 150gr SST into sub .75 moa 5-shot groups. I've shot and handled Tikka rifles and I can't fault anyone for choosing them but they do nothing for me that a Kimber won't do as well or better and with way more style. It's not that I don't like Tikka rifles, it's just that I don't need them. If Kimbers didn't work so well for me I would probably look more closely at Tikka.
The first 84M Hunter rifles shipped with magazines that were tight with three in the box, but for close to a year now the magazines have more internal height so that's no longer an issue. The 84L magazines have never been a problem.
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. If you say so... The sad thing is, most savage axis will outshoot most tikkas, at almost half the price. Sure, tikkas shoot decent, but it's basically a Walmart shoppers dream gun. I get the cost issue, but around here the cost of fuel for most hunters in a season, dwarfs any price difference between any of the guns mentioned. Most Savage Axis will outshoot most Tikkas?
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. If you say so... The sad thing is, most savage axis will outshoot most tikkas, at almost half the price. Sure, tikkas shoot decent, but it's basically a Walmart shoppers dream gun. I get the cost issue, but around here the cost of fuel for most hunters in a season, dwarfs any price difference between any of the guns mentioned. Most Savage Axis will outshoot most Tikkas? Boy am I glad I didn't make that claim! I was back at the store buying a set of Burris Signature rings in 30mm for my American Predator 6.5 Shootmoor. My new SWFA 3-9 MQ has found it's mate. They had 7 Tikkas, a couple of T3's and the rest T3x. All of them have great triggers. Feel good. Maybe I'll buy one, who knows it might be better than a Savage Axis.
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What is wrong with it? It’s a #£%¥*&$ Kimber. That was easy.
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. If you say so... The sad thing is, most savage axis will outshoot most tikkas, at almost half the price. Sure, tikkas shoot decent, but it's basically a Walmart shoppers dream gun. I get the cost issue, but around here the cost of fuel for most hunters in a season, dwarfs any price difference between any of the guns mentioned. Most Savage Axis will outshoot most Tikkas? IME, yes. Like stated above, tikkas are more for the non-reloading crowd. They shoot well with factory ammo, much better than Kimbers. As soon as you start developing loads though, the Kimbers and savages shine. The tikkas I shot and developed loads for still shot about 3/4-1MOA.
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If I had to use a Savage Axis I'd stay home with the wife and bake Christmas cookies during deer season. Life's to short to shoot [bleep] rifles, accurate or otherwise.
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Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. If you say so... The sad thing is, most savage axis will outshoot most tikkas, at almost half the price. Sure, tikkas shoot decent, but it's basically a Walmart shoppers dream gun. I get the cost issue, but around here the cost of fuel for most hunters in a season, dwarfs any price difference between any of the guns mentioned. Most Savage Axis will outshoot most Tikkas? IME, yes. Like stated above, tikkas are more for the non-reloading crowd. They shoot well with factory ammo, much better than Kimbers. As soon as you start developing loads though, the Kimbers and savages shine. The tikkas I shot and developed loads for still shot about 3/4-1MOA. Maybe that's a reflection of your reloading skills?
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Funny stuff. Exactly how many Tikka’s have you loaded for? Savage? Kimber?
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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2 tikkas, 5 axis, 12 SA Montanas.... I really don't care what the haters say, if one wants a tikka, more power to them. Just don't make up [bleep] trying to justify that they are a high quality rifle. Zero of my buddies that are into reloading, own tikkas. They laugh when they hear this same [bleep] spewed from local tikka owners. [quote=qwk][quote=16bore][quote=qwk]Because the quality of a tikka is comparable to a savage axis, not a Kimber. Not a chance. If you say so... The sad thing is, most savage axis will outshoot most tikkas, at almost half the price. Sure, tikkas shoot decent, but it's basically a Walmart shoppers dream gun. I get the cost issue, but around here the cost of fuel for most hunters in a season, dwarfs any price difference between any of the guns mentioned. So I was just accidentally good at reloading for the other rifles, just not the tikkas? Thinking before posting would do you some good.
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If I had to use a Savage Axis I'd stay home with the wife and bake Christmas cookies during deer season. Life's to short to shoot [bleep] rifles, accurate or otherwise. You must be drunk. An axis is just as quality as a tikka. I must have ruffled some feathers of the tikkatard crowd...
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Funny stuff. Exactly how many Tikka’s have you loaded for? Savage? Kimber? I realize you sell tikkas, and your bias is evident. Cash always beats reality, awesome.
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Why bother handloading for a $249 rifle? Load workup could wind up costing more than your initial nvestment
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Funny stuff. Exactly how many Tikka’s have you loaded for? Savage? Kimber? I realize you sell tikkas, and your bias is evident. Cash always beats reality, awesome. I was guessing you were a dick, but that comment proves it.
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