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I just btt my old leupold manifesto π€ππ when my scope went "wonky" (love that term). All you that got leupold scopes and love em and they work great i am happy for ya. My trust is gone in em is all I have to say,,,, and many others are experiencing the same loss of trust in em. Confidence in gear that works is a huge thing to all of us. If ya have confidence in your gear use it, if ya don't then it's time to move on to something else that has been proven to work for ya.
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Personally, ive never had any issues with them.
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I must be fairly lucky with Leupolds after reading some of these posts.....I have dozens of them (along with many other brands) and have yet to have an "issue". I have them on hunting rifles, slug guns and pistols, target rifles and pistols, and just casual "plinkers". The target rifles include several silhouette guns and long range rifles that require constant elevation tuning. Certainly not saying things can't happen with any product and I'm sure that I do not shoot as many rounds as some here but I am happy with my experiences with Leupolds both old and new.
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Looks the Leupold fans are starting to outnumber the naysayers.
laissez les bons temps rouler
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Just tired of beating a dead horse. It has all been said.
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laissez les bons temps rouler
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Perhaps some may be enticed to dump their leupold 6x42βs, and since you canβt trust them,should sell them at a giveaway price???? And pay the shipping. π I've got one I was using as a toilet plunger handle I'll sell cheap. It's mint condition.
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Just the handle. How much?
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Sorry, I didn't mean to say "mint," what I meant was "minty."
Sani-Fresh Spearmint, I think.
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No problem. They will do a refurb for free. How much and ship it hazmat.
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Leupold dont give a fat rats azz about what some have experienced with their scopes. Someone went to a lean sigma six conference back when and started the good idea fairy trend in the company. I bet most of their managers are lean sigma six "qualified" and as a result of this the company "streamlined" its manufacturing and decided cheaper components were the way of the future and eliminate some qc process,s on the assembly line in order to reduce costs overall. All done to compete against others in the market. I'm sure their reputation of past gold ring reliability was discussed in head shed meetings and how it has been long established as a hedge for sales. If it's cost effective to replace versus repair a customer's scope. That to me speaks volumes. And when you as the customer become the company defacto QC, cause they more than likely hope s h i t will stick for the average 1 box of ammo or less a year shooter. That speaks for itself also.
Cheap made is cheap made whether it sports the "vaunted" gold ring or not.
Leupold go back to the 70,s and 80,s. Beef up scope internals, that is what your company needs to do and if you add 1-3 oz of weight to your scopes then so be it. Your company is losing trust from life long customers who dont care anymore about the gold ring factor. People want a scope that works and the word is spreading everyday about leupold,s sub par scopes.The best lifetime warranty is one you dont have to use multiple times. Leupolds gold ring reputation of the past isn't cutting the mustard with their modern good idea fairy business model........ I believe Renegade has put the finger on the pulse here. The same thing happened with American car industry back in late '60s and early '70s QC quit mattering. Foreign competition forced the execs to bring back some QC to make more reliable products and after several decades American car brands have become better than they were but not quite as competitive as they should be. My fellow consumers, I have not yet experienced owning a Leupold that tracked well enough to trust turning turrets on a hunt, but I have only owned less than a dozen.
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Your right, I talked with my buddy at leupold, he just laffed, so did I.... haha
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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You fuucking donkeys think this shiit matters, look at tasco... Burris... Simmons... weaver... on and on and on...
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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Leupold will always be 10 steps ahead of the aforementioned, and they even sell slots glass...
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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This has been an interesting read. I have 1 Zeiss, 1 Swarovski and over 20 Leupolds. The Swarovski 3-9x36 is a lovely little scope but it costs about double a VX3i 2.5-8x36. Is it double the scope? No it's not. It is a tad brighter but the Loopy holds it's own considering it is half the price.
I have only ever had to return one Leupold scope for warranty work. It was a 20 year old M8 6x36 that had a slightly loose front lens. It would move about half a millimetre under my thumb. It was returned looking like new. I've had no other issues in all my other Leupolds ranging from Varix ll and lll, VXlll, VX3 and VX3i. In fact the last new scope I put on a rifle was a VX3i in 2.5-8x36. I never bore sight but start shooting at 25m and then move out to 100m. The scope adjustments were so accurate it took two shots at 25m and three shots at 100m to get the bullet shooting 2 1/2 inches high. I'd only shoot one shot and adjust. The rifle was a very accurate .257 Roberts so there was no need to shoot three shot groups.
I am a set and forget scope hunter. I check POI every year on my guns and may have to adjust one or two clicks occasionally but not sure if this is the scope losing hold or the wood stocks moving over the summer/winter temperature changes. I am at a loss to explain the high rate of failures others have experienced with their Leupold scopes. About a third of my scopes are either VX3 or VX3i which I understand are the models some are having issues with. These are the ones that have been the easiest to sight in and adjust as I explained above. They are more precise than the old friction adjustments. I simply cannot fault them and can't understand the high rate of failures others have experienced. I will continue to support them as I have found them a sturdy, accurate, reliable scope for a reasonable financial outlay for over 20 years.
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After reading all the posts in this tread, I now understand why I was able to purchase a new in the box Mark 4 6.5x20 FFP, mil dot reticle and 50 mm objective from Cabela's in Yakima for only 402.00.
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After reading all the posts in this tread, I now understand why I was able to purchase a new in the box Mark 4 6.5x20 FFP, mil dot reticle and 50 mm objective from Cabela's in Yakima for only 402.00. Bargain Cave?
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Theyβre really that bad! Iβll put my tasco pronghorn up against em!!!! Funny thing is Iβve drug that RAR Mag around Washington Idaho and Montana and never touched it!! Haha Killed 6 coons with it last week, all right betwixed the runnin lights....
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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After reading all the posts in this tread, I now understand why I was able to purchase a new in the box Mark 4 6.5x20 FFP, mil dot reticle and 50 mm objective from Cabela's in Yakima for only 402.00. All Leupolds are being discounted. VX-1's and 2's are being discontinued. I've ran across two websites that say the VX-3i is being discontinued. I can buy new VX-1 2-7's and 3-9's Duplex for $155, LRD for $190. TYD New VX-2's 2-7's and 3-9's Duplex for $190 and LRD for $240. TYD New VX-3i''s 2.5-8's and 3.5-10's Duplex for $310 and B&C for $390. TYD Just watched a new VX-1 3-9 LRD sell for $156 w/free shipping on ebay yesterday. Just have to look around..... The funny thing is used Leupolds on the Classifieds are selling for almost as much as new, sometimes more.
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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