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Anyone have any experience with any of the muzzleloaders, particularly flintlocks, being imported from India? Prices are favorable to Italian imports, but does anyone know anything about their quality?
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I have seen several. "Quality" and "India" do not fit together.
There is an old saying "You get what you pay for" but with the Indian made guns I have seen, you don't even get that much.
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india and thrown together is more like it. You should see the indian made powder horns!
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Ahhhh. Well,,,,,, they are adequate for "reenacting". But personally I would opt for something of better quality!!
If I may ask, what exactly are you looking for?
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I'm pretty sure Italian guns are all proofed before they sail for America. Indian ones, who knows?😱
Would you want your kid riding an Indian skateboard?
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indian guns arent even drilled through the vent hole when they come here. Look at one in person and it looks like a plastic wall hanger fake.
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I'm pretty sure Italian guns are all proofed before they sail for America. Indian ones, who knows?😱
Would you want your kid riding an Indan skateboard? Or driving a Mahindra tractor ?
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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
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Actually just kidding with the guy not all things made in India are haphazardly made. Mahindra tractors are pretty darn good tractors. I work with a software developer that used to work for them after he graduated from college in India, they are very automated and well run per him.
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I hope this wasn't one of those "I bought something and want someone to tell me it's not crap" threads.😬
Actually, I've never seen a ML from India, not even on the interweb. I absolutely know, however, that good Italian guns are very good indeed. Spanish, maybe not so much.
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Pappy,
I'm asking because I'm interested in getting an 18th century style smoothbore. There are a couple of outfits I know of offering fusils and fowlers made in India. These are priced on a level with some of the Italian products, and above some of the Spanish ones. Some $500 and up, so "You get what you pay for" doesn't really help me. I appreciate everyone's opinions but was hoping to hear from someone who'd actually fired one.
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Greetings Ploughman, Go here, join forum, ask http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/fusionbb.phpThey will have the answers you seek. And then some! Good luck in your endeavor! Hope you find the firelock you desire! KW
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With all the quality low priced MLs I would never buy a rifle from india. Imagine trying to get parts? plus India is on the S H list........
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Got you.
As I said, good Italian guns are good guns by any standard. I'd feel perfecly safe ordering a Pedersoli, for instance, online, knowing they are quality goods from personal experience. Unless I was able to actually lay my hands on something from a unknown Asian maker, I'd steer clear, unless I had a recommendation from a trusted source like kaywoodie.
Plain fowlers can be had from American outfits like Tennessee Valley at fair prices too.
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Thank you for the link kaywoodie. Good stuff there. I was completely unaware of that forum.
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Got you.
As I said, good Italian guns are good guns by any standard. I'd feel perfecly safe ordering a Pedersoli, for instance, online, knowing they are quality goods from personal experience. Unless I was able to actually lay my hands on something from a unknown Asian maker, I'd steer clear, unless I had a recommendation from a trusted source like kaywoodie.
Plain fowlers can be had from American outfits like Tennessee Valley at fair prices too. One of my best rifles is a Pedesoli, but I just mailed back a new Pedersoli Jaeger this morning because it had big time lock issues. It was 1250 on sale, and is 1450.00 now. So even "moderate" price rifles may be a headache. They did try to repair by bending cast parts and heat treating the frizzen but it still was unreliable. Again my other Pedersoli has fired 100s of shots and never once misfired, even hunting in the wet snow. Super quality on that one. I can't afford unreliability at any cost.
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Thank you for the link kaywoodie. Good stuff there. I was completely unaware of that forum. You are most welcome!
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My Mortimer was pretty iffy until I followed Ross Seyfried's instructions and enlarged and coned out the vent liner. After that, it was as reliable as a caplock, and quick.
The shank of the frizzen broke (internal casting flaw). I ordered a new one, which fit perfectly and put me back in business. Lost that great rifle to the "needs of the business" while my son was in college.
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