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Until I found this from a 1930 A. G. Parker catalog I did not realize the 250-3000 was capable of taking some of this game, evidently it's the only gun one would ever need (threw in some other pages from the same catalog) - Interesting 22 claibre conversion kit - for those with a Savage made Lewis machine gun in .303 British who wish to shoot it in their basement - ...some more stuff that looks like it would really be worth having.... ...................................................................................................... I think I'll still just use matches...
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I have thought about hunting elk with a 250-3000 but I would only take short range head shots. The elk have been too hard to hunt this year so I've stuck with the 300 Weatherby. David
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Thanks for posting this, GeneB. After reading the 1930 catalog I figure all I would need for an African hunt is my Savage 99F in 250-3000. I guess ferreting was pretty popular in 1930.
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Very interesting. Don't think I'll be going after brown bear with a 250-3000 anytime soon.
Gene says the catalog is from 1930, and the rifle is listed as a 99G. Take a look at the image of the rifle (looks like a first variation 1899 .250-3000 to me). No raised ramp front sight, and even more interesting, perch belly stock. Weren't perch belly stocks discontinued when production resumed after WWI? That would mean they were still using a 12 year old image. Probably says something about the cost to change images at that time. I assume the catalog would have been printed using the letterpress process.
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My 99R 250 belonged to my Sister-in-Laws father and was used to feed his family while they lived in Wyoming. He used 87 gr bullets for antelope, 100 for deer and 117s for elk. I asked him one time how he hunted elk with it. His reply was he "got close and shot them in the neck". Good thing, since the 117s he included with it when I bought it would keyhole every time at 100 yards.
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I have killed many deer and hogs with the 250-3000. At all times, it was very effective.
All three of my sons deer rifles are chambered in 250-3000. I have zero doubt that they will serve them well.
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The ad also says it had a checkered trigger. Only the pre WWI 1899 250-3000's had checkered triggers and the perch belly stocks weren't used after WWI. It was common practice to use outdated info in catalogs and advertisements. Savage catalogs had pictures of 1895's up until 1904. This caused a lot of people to say the early 1899 carbines (SRC) had barrel bands. They didn't. David
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I mentioned a number of catalog errors in my book.
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The 22HP was the only gun you would ever need until Savage invented the 250-3000 - that is with a little help from Mr. Newton. Now if you could only adapt the Lewis drum to the 99???
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the 250-3000 worked well for my wifes grandfather . he fed his family in the early part of the last century in Colorado with his. My father in law had a string of elk ivories, with about 50 on it from that era. my BIL has that 99 today and try as i might he just wont part with it. he was going to move to Hawaii this year and i tried to tell him they wouldn't let him bring it in over there. too bad he can read.
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I like old catalogs like that
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So it is, in essence, a 22HP Magnum?
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The pictures were not very up to date, the listing for the Savage Model 29 still has a picture of a 1914 (shows the tang safety). Here is the only 99's listed in 1933, pictures updated and there is no mention of taking African game (possibly by 1933 all who suggested that had gotten themselves trampled or mauled to death). 1933 also has tang sights, including one for the 99's, it might be the first catalog with them, the 1930 does not have them. Here are a couple more pages from the 1930 catalog - earlier versions of these 'tubeless scopes' were issued to the front lines during WWI.
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the 250-3000 worked well for my wifes grandfather . he fed his family in the early part of the last century in Colorado with his. My father in law had a string of elk ivories, with about 50 on it from that era. my BIL has that 99 today and try as i might he just wont part with it. he was going to move to Hawaii this year and i tried to tell him they wouldn't let him bring it in over there. too bad he can read. That was a comendable try!
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Someone (DGF?) had one of those tubeless scopes at the first Savage Fest. I wonder why it wasn't more popular. It's mechanically very simple. Less parts to fail.
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That was Fug that had the tubeless scope, we were all at DGFs table when he brought it out! if I rember right! then he put that away and brought out the mint "T" in 22HP, was a Great time!
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To heck with all that other stuff, I need to stock up on ferreting accessories.
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To heck with all that other stuff, I need to stock up on ferreting accessories. first thing you need is a pair of gaiters for your pant legs and a tight belt. those suckers can go up a pant leg in a flash . make you dance and curse! Gary, have you ever used cast in a 250-3000?
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