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Bought a Browning BLR for short to medium range whitetail hunting. 90% of shots will be in the 25 to 100 yards range and the other 10% will be 200 yards or under. Leaning towards loading up some 150 grain partitions but may try some ballistic tips. Thoughts?
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At those ranges, any decent 165gr cup/core would be very effective and inexpensive. I've only been deer hunting 30 years now, which is not much compared to many here, but I have never seen a "failure" from that combo, whether used by me or another hunter in my company. I'd sight in about an inch and a half high at 100 and go hunting. But I must also add that a 150NPT is not going to be a bad choice there either, just probably not necessary.
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And if you are wanting to be "modern" in your approach, a 130TTSX at 3,000fps is an awesome load. I've seen it work very well. Again, it's just probably not necessary for the application.
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At those ranges, any decent 165gr cup/core would be very effective and inexpensive. I've only been deer hunting 30 years now, which is not much compared to many here, but I have never seen a "failure" from that combo, whether used by me or another hunter in my company. I'd sight in about an inch and a half high at 100 and go hunting. But I must also add that a 150NPT is not going to be a bad choice there either, just probably not necessary. Stick one on top of 39 grains of 3031 for that close in work. Mild and accurate. I did with a 165 Ballistic Tip and it took care of business for me.
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Hornady Spire Point, Hornady Spire Point, Hornady Spire Point, did I mention Hornady?
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Hornady Spire Point, Hornady Spire Point, Hornady Spire Point, did I mention Hornady? I wasn't able to get good groups out of the new production 165's I got.
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Hornady Spire Point, Hornady Spire Point, Hornady Spire Point, did I mention Hornady? I wasn't able to get good groups out of the new production 165's I got. I couldn't get good groups either. I went to Swift, Barnes and Nosler. Yes more expensive, but accuracy is very important to me.
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165 grain: Nosler Ballistic Tip Speer Hot Cor Hornady Spire Point Sierra GameKing
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If the Hornadys don't shoot (and they don't in one of my .308s), try the Speer HotCors.
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Hornady 8098 165 SPBT @ 2700 MV est.
Duplicate handload 165 Hornady over 42.0gr Imr4895 2.8" CCI br primer
If your rifle won't shoot that load, sell it.
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Here the load I used this year for the same purpose:
Sierra 180 ProHunter Re15 - 44 grains Fed 210
Several deer this year hated that recipe.
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Hornady 8098 165 SPBT @ 2700 MV est.
Duplicate handload 165 Hornady over 42.0gr Imr4895 2.8" CCI br primer
If your rifle won't shoot that load, sell it. That's a pretty good combination, but unless the chamber has a short, pressure raising throat and a long barrel thereafter it isn't going to show 2700 fps over a reliable chronograph. This opinion is based on having shot thousands of 168 grain bullets loaded in M852 and M118 Lake City match cases with 42.2 grains of IMR4895 duplicating the old M852 match load specification. The rifles were from Steyr, Ruger, Remington and Kimber with barrel lengths from 20" to 26".
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There may be cheaper options, but I doubt there’s a better option than the Partition. Push it with Varget too.
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I use IMR 4064 and 150 gr. Barnes TTSX bullets in my .308.
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I use 150gr Sierra Gamekings. The knock out deer and pigs. Partition bullets are the best, but more expensive, Ballistic tips are great as well. I use the 140’s in 7 mags and 7mm 08. Deer and pigs aren’t hard to kill.
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I'd go with the 150 gr. Nosler Partition. It'll handle any reasonable angle and/or any size deer. Noslers Partitions are generally accurate though maybe not necessarily the most accurate, but so what because you're not apparently shooting long range. I will always chose bullet reliability over accuracy given the bullet is accurate enough for the job at hand.
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For what you want to do literally any 150-180 gr bullet will be fine as would the 130 gr copper bullets. I hunt in similar terrain, but load with longer ranges and bigger game in mind just in case. Those loads work just as good up close whereas some loads intended for close work on smaller game suck at longer ranges and bigger game.
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Back when I started reloading I was shooting a .308, my whitetail load in those days was a Hornady 180gr. RN over a moderate load of IMR 4895. I used this load to take the biggest whitetail buck of my hunting career, a 254# 11pt. bruiser from Maine's Aroostook County. Years of late I have been using a 165gr. Sierra or Nosler and IMR 4064 as my deer load, it has proven to be both accurate and effective on game.
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Get some flat base 150 grain bullets and go find the one that shoots best in your rifle.
At those ranges one does not need fancy bullets,or a ton of speed. After all they are not bullet proof.
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Hornady 8098 165 SPBT @ 2700 MV est.
Duplicate handload 165 Hornady over 42.0gr Imr4895 2.8" CCI br primer
If your rifle won't shoot that load, sell it. That's a pretty good combination, but unless the chamber has a short, pressure raising throat and a long barrel thereafter it isn't going to show 2700 fps over a reliable chronograph. This opinion is based on having shot thousands of 168 grain bullets loaded in M852 and M118 Lake City match cases with 42.2 grains of IMR4895 duplicating the old M852 match load specification. The rifles were from Steyr, Ruger, Remington and Kimber with barrel lengths from 20" to 26". The 2700 is the factory est. Based on 26" . The load and handload produce 2550 in my 20" steyr tactical(s). I'm using a large batch of 1968-69 LC M118 MATCH brass. My target (and suburban deer load) is identical with an AMAX 168.
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