Thinking a lot of "cerakote" is duracoat. So many outfits are doing it now a days are out to make a quick buck. They know even if they do a good job the average customer is going to be a one time deal. I would never send out a gun to be coated. I want to be able to deal with someone personally. Less likely to screw you if you can go pound on their door. Also complaints carry more weight among the local shooting community when coming from another local.
I've had a few rifles with ceracoat and they scratched easier than if I had Krylon'd them. Ridiculous. To me it's a scam run by scammers. Never had any experience to show me otherwise. Maybe it can be done right, but I've never seen it.
Dang Roy, you must have gone to school with my Dad, actually he may have been your teacher. He used black Krylon on his old shotguns, Joe.
$4 vs. $100 and the same results.
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I've been using Norrell Moly Resin for a few things and it seems to be a pretty good product. It is sprayed on using an airbrush and baked. I have refinished a couple of handguns that came out nicely, and most recently refinished a 77V barreled action that I received back from Pac-Nor in December. The Norrell website has (or at least HAD, at one time) some testing data on the product.
I like the appearance of the stuff. I'll be finding out more about its durability over the coming years.
I have an econo-custom 98 in .280 (a great shooter, even with its cheap A&B barrel) which I bought finished with Duracoat (allegedly). I don't have reason to doubt that this is what the finish is, but I honestly don't know it for a fact. It seems to be okay for the most part, but it is chipping off at the edge of the muzzle. I think I'm going to blast that finish off and Moly Resin it also.
I took photos of the 77 with my phone , but it's hard to get that camera to do what I want to show detail. Here's one anyway:
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I’ve also not been overly impressed with ceracoat. It shows superficial marks more than any other finish I own. I’ve got 3 guns coated and one duracoated flat turkey 870. The duracoated 870 holds up just as well as the ceracoated rifles and it gets carried a lot more.
Turned it in today Gloss black way to reflective Picked an "elite" series color midnight e-110 Told em to make a semi gloss Showed a bunch of projects one color versus the other
If it is going to be in the weather much bluing starts rusting right away and can be rubbed through in very short order. Check out the durability tests. For the real skeptics there are a bunch of tests published on youtube by private individuals that show the same as results as long as it's properly installed.
Cerakote done properly should be at least as tough as what ever is under it. Over tool steel they are almost impossible to scratch. I have put it on vise grips and you can destroy a piece of pipe with them and not wear it off the tips on the jaws. On a Stanley hammer head you can pound in a bunch of 16 penny nails and it doesn't touch the face of that hammer. I live on the Oregon coast and have a test barrel I let people beat on and scratch and you have to put a very sharp edge into it to get it to scratch. A hammer simply dents the steel even glancing blows won't expose the metal under it. This barrel lives in a ditch or buried in the wife's flower bed and has lived out there 24/7 since about 200 when we were certified in it's application. Where ever it is through the finish is rusted but as long as the base metal doesn't show it still looks new.
I have taken to bringing a bit of OxphoBlue with me on extended hunts and find it can be applied in a tent in the serious Boonies easily... and it does a great job of fixing any issues I have bumped into...
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Thanks for the offer man. I turned it in yesterday Got it down to 220 level Getting oxide blasted to 120 evenly, then painted and cooked.
I'm gonna roll with the cerracoat job, ain't got a gun done in it, so this will be it. Call It good , only a 165 dollar pawn shop find Foul weather gun, use the mod70ot6 safe queen in good weather.
Sitka, I use Oxpho Blue for touchup in the shop. One thing for sure if it isn't neutralized real good before left for any length of time you will wake up to a serious rusted mess.
Sunday was the last day of duck season here on the coast. My son spent the day sea duck hunting in a kayak around the mouth of the Coos Bay bar and just inside the bay. His Remington 1100 was rained on, submerged in salt water and every paddle stroke poured sea water all over that shotgun inside and out. Thank goodness he had a tether on it. He didn't take any oil of any sort. He was wiped when he got home so the shotgun was left unloved on a stool in the garage. He finally got to tear it down last night and after over 48 hours since it's last exposure to the ocean it is still flawless. The kayak was one of those hard plastic jobs so it was under constant sand and plastic abrasion the whole time. There is no bluing in the world that wouldn't have been destroyed from one trip like this but this shotgun thrives in it year after year thanks to Cerakote.
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Outta the shop and done Put back together about 3 hr ago at the house Nice blue black hue in daylight Ain't looked at assembled rifle in daylight yet Bout 20ish coats of 50- 50 mix mineral spirits and tru oil Im happy with it. Midnight e-110 with a little bit of gloss black h-109
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