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I recently came into ownership of my first ever 1-6x24mm scope (Thanks Doug!) and am trying to figure out the best application of said scope.
What would you put it on? Is this my excuse for buying a new gun and if so, what should it be?
Am considering putting it on my Model 700 in .30-'06 but not sure I want to break up the current pairing which is a Weaver Grand Slam 2.5-10x40.
Thoughts?
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Low-power, light weight, small objectives are great for snap shots. I'd throw it on a woods rifle, lever gun, timber/mountain rifle.
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6x is plenty to shoot well below moa out to at least 300 yards. I do it all the time.
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I ain't mathman. At 300 I really struggle and prefer 10x if I'm trying to hit inside a 3" dot. My eyes ain't so good though.
Hunting? Elk and even deer are pretty damn big. 6x is plenty well past 300 for me.
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I ain't mathman. At 300 I really struggle and prefer 10x if I'm trying to hit inside a 3" dot. My eyes ain't so good though.
Hunting? Elk and even deer are pretty damn big. 6x is plenty well past 300 for me. Try quartering a blank sheet of paper at 300. It worked well enough for me to shoot well below moa on 3.5x.
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6x scope is a lot of magnification. You should never ever shoot at any Animal at distance longer that 120 m. It is not just a scope that can cause miss at longer distance. It is wind, it is your accuracy, it is rifle accuracy (80 % of all rifles in N.A are not capable even and basic accuracy). to Shoot at any animal longer than 120 m is just an idiot who does not mind to wound an Animal
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6x scope is a lot of magnification. You should never ever shoot at any Animal at distance longer that 120 m. It is not just a scope that can cause miss at longer distance. It is wind, it is your accuracy, it is rifle accuracy (80 % of all rifles in N.A are not capable even and basic accuracy). to Shoot at any animal longer than 120 m is just an idiot who does not mind to wound an Animal I agree, I wouldn't shoot at an animal farther than 120 miles with a 6x.
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Way back there, a gun writer (maybe Sundra) published an article touting the 6x ans the perfect hunting rifle scope. He was a sharp guy and made several good points to support his views. Before getting into variables, I used a good 6x for a long time on everything from small varmints to elk/bear. Never a problem. Won't try that now with these tired/fuzzy eyes.
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You might find your objective size to be more limiting than your 6x. I hunt with several 20mm scopes and i do sometime which I had a bigger objective for more light . But i hunt with those in timber or thick stuff where shots are close so not really a big deal.
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6x scope is a lot of magnification. You should never ever shoot at any Animal at distance longer that 120 m. It is not just a scope that can cause miss at longer distance. It is wind, it is your accuracy, it is rifle accuracy (80 % of all rifles in N.A are not capable even and basic accuracy). to Shoot at any animal longer than 120 m is just an idiot who does not mind to wound an Animal Hilarious! You should go on the road.
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6x scope is a lot of magnification. You should never ever shoot at any Animal at distance longer that 120 m. It is not just a scope that can cause miss at longer distance. It is wind, it is your accuracy, it is rifle accuracy (80 % of all rifles in N.A are not capable even and basic accuracy). to Shoot at any animal longer than 120 m is just an idiot who does not mind to wound an Animal Clark
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I am a fan of the straight tubed 24mm's in the 1.1-4, 1-6 range. For my hunting the 6 power would not be limiting. Though the objective size can be limiting, depending on your shooting hours, terrain, environmental conditions. I will say that most of the time the quality 24mm's last as long as I do when getting dark. I use them quiet often. The last moose that I killed the rifle had a 1st focal plane reticle 1.1-4x24 on it, set on about 2.5 power. It was pretty low light and the moose was around 170 yds. Given more time, I would have put it on 4x. But, had it set to the lowest power where the reticle was very visible. I was actually expecting the moose at about 50 yds. By the time that I identified the appropriate brow times with bino's, he was not pausing for pictures. I recently came into ownership of my first ever 1-6x24mm scope (Thanks Doug!) and am trying to figure out the best application of said scope.
What would you put it on? Is this my excuse for buying a new gun and if so, what should it be?
Am considering putting it on my Model 700 in .30-'06 but not sure I want to break up the current pairing which is a Weaver Grand Slam 2.5-10x40.
Thoughts?
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I recently came into ownership of my first ever 1-6x24mm scope (Thanks Doug!) and am trying to figure out the best application of said scope.
What would you put it on? Is this my excuse for buying a new gun and if so, what should it be?
Am considering putting it on my Model 700 in .30-'06 but not sure I want to break up the current pairing which is a Weaver Grand Slam 2.5-10x40.
Thoughts? What model/brand scope?
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6x scope is a lot of magnification. You should never ever shoot at any Animal at distance longer that 120 m. It is not just a scope that can cause miss at longer distance. It is wind, it is your accuracy, it is rifle accuracy (80 % of all rifles in N.A are not capable even and basic accuracy). to Shoot at any animal longer than 120 m is just an idiot who does not mind to wound an Animal I agree, I wouldn't shoot at an animal farther than 120 miles with a 6x. Yeah, with that many miles I want at least a 9x...........
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I'm surprised that so many guys are looking at the 6x and calling it great for whatever to 300 and beyond, but only a couple guys have mentioned the 24mm objective, which I would definitely NOT call good to 300 and beyond for whatever.
What am I missing? I've got small objective, low power scopes, and they are great in high-contrast, well-lit environments (or when aiming at white paper), but their range is limited by the low clarity at distance in poor light conditions. I would stretch a 33 or a 36 and up to 300 and beyond for whatever, but small objectives are a trade-off, IMO.
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I'm surprised that so many guys are looking at the 6x and calling it great for whatever to 300 and beyond, but only a couple guys have mentioned the 24mm objective, which I would definitely NOT call good to 300 and beyond for whatever.
What am I missing? I've got small objective, low power scopes, and they are great in high-contrast, well-lit environments (or when aiming at white paper), but their range is limited by the low clarity at distance in poor light conditions. I would stretch a 33 or a 36 and up to 300 and beyond for whatever, but small objectives are a trade-off, IMO. Just hunt in well lit areas.....
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I'm surprised that so many guys are looking at the 6x and calling it great for whatever to 300 and beyond, but only a couple guys have mentioned the 24mm objective, which I would definitely NOT call good to 300 and beyond for whatever.
What am I missing? I've got small objective, low power scopes, and they are great in high-contrast, well-lit environments (or when aiming at white paper), but their range is limited by the low clarity at distance in poor light conditions. I would stretch a 33 or a 36 and up to 300 and beyond for whatever, but small objectives are a trade-off, IMO. Just hunt in well lit areas..... It's so simple....genius! Gosh, thanks. I feel kind of dumb that I didn't come up with that sooner. I've heard that elk prefer open areas that are well-lit when the hunting pressure gets heavy, but I just didn't believe it. Until now. You should be a life coach, Steelhead. I haven't felt this good about the future in a long time. Since November of 2008, to be exact.
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I'm surprised that so many guys are looking at the 6x and calling it great for whatever to 300 and beyond, but only a couple guys have mentioned the 24mm objective, which I would definitely NOT call good to 300 and beyond for whatever.
What am I missing? I've got small objective, low power scopes, and they are great in high-contrast, well-lit environments (or when aiming at white paper), but their range is limited by the low clarity at distance in poor light conditions. I would stretch a 33 or a 36 and up to 300 and beyond for whatever, but small objectives are a trade-off, IMO. Just hunt in well lit areas..... It's so simple....genius! Gosh, thanks. I feel kind of dumb that I didn't come up with that sooner. I've heard that elk prefer open areas that are well-lit when the hunting pressure gets heavy, but I just didn't believe it. Until now. You should be a life coach, Steelhead. I haven't felt this good about the future in a long time. Since November of 2008, to be exact. In contrast to you're 'brainstorm' idea of just aiming 2 inches lower. Again, we don't all hunt the same places or for the same shiet. Sorry if you can't kill something past 20 yards with a 20mm bell. You're shortcomings ain't everyone's shortcomings. There ends the lesson.
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If I had a 1-6x scope, it would go on an AR.
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