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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/739245177
did the 1899 takedown come in 300?
inquiring mind wants to know.
shame it's d&ted


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Yes after 1922. GW


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wouldn't that be a model 99 then?


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Yes, a 99.


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the gun in the auction has model 1899 on the ring is why i am wondering


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Savage was still stamping them as 1899 for a year or two after that.

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PS those scope mounting holes are WAY off center, thats a Model G delux.

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thank you Norm , that's the information i was looking for.
slowly learning.
those screws look like wood screws, gave me the shivers when i saw them. even the rear screw holes are off!

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Originally Posted by deerstalker
thank you Norm , that's the information i was looking for.
slowly learning.
those screws look like wood screws, gave me the shivers when i saw them. even the rear screw holes are off!


put a scope on that you would have trouble getting on paper ,, tang sight would be much better,or a Lightfoot mount

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think i will save my pennies and buy something a little cleaner. but i am going to buy a mount from lightfoot for my 30-30 g
the barrel is so tight on it i don't take it down anyway.

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I was intrested in this one and asked about tang cracks, they said they had been repaired, I asked for some pics but never got any, I moved on!


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If that is the gun I think it is,it was listed a year or so ago. If so, the stock is cracked up pretty good.

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I don't believe so, as the model 1899 designation was changed to model 99 in 1920,
At the same time as the 300 Savage was introduced.
I suppose it is possible that's some leftover 1899 parts may have been used to assemble a 300 Savage takedown model 1899.
I have not seen any others than the one on gunbroker, so I would tend to think that they would be somewhat rare.
Frankly the one on GunBroker is a poor specimen to my way of thinking. Used and abused, and Bubba'd screws to boot.
I would pass on it. There are still nice ones to be had out there.

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Originally Posted by Daltond
I don't believe so, as the model 1899 designation was changed to model 99 in 1920,
At the same time as the 300 Savage was introduced.
I suppose it is possible that's some leftover 1899 parts may have been used to assemble a 300 Savage takedown model 1899.
I have never seen or heard of one though, so if such rifles exist at all, I would tend to think that they would be very rare.

Savage created the 99 model names and started using the term 99 in catalogs and advertising all in 1921. But they continued to stamp Savage Model 1899 on the receiver until 1926'ish.

There were NO physical changes in the guns from the last couple of years of 1899's to the first few years of 99's.

We call all Savage lever actions made after 1921 model 99's so that we are all talking about the same thing. If you see a 1925 Savage 99 stamped with Savage Model 1899 - well, that's because pretty much all Savage 99's in 1925 were stamped that way.


The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”.
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makes my head hurt trying to keep it all straight. but then its fun learning all the different data.


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Originally Posted by deerstalker
makes my head hurt trying to keep it all straight. but then its fun learning all the different data.

The trick is in remembering that it didn't matter to Savage whether you called them 1899's or 99's. There was no "manufacturing change" beyond Savage giving their rifles model letters. The 1899 models letters we know of now didn't exist until Murray penned them in the 80's. So whether you called them 1899's or 99's, it was all the same to Savage.

The reason we get picky about it is so that we are all talking about the same thing. It's important to know that you are talking about a 99B versus an 1899B.


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i am studying as best i can, the different configurations/models . by the time i get them where i can tell by looking i'll be dead. which my wife says might be sooner then later if i keep buying.


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deerstalker, my wife said the same thing.
Rory, They did add 22HP, 303 Sav., 30-30 Win. and 300 Savage to the former Model 1899 250-3000 and called it the Model 99G.
The newest rifle I have with the 1899 stamp is a 99H in 303 made in 1925. I also have a 99C and a 99D both in 300 with 24" rifle weight barrels. Both were made in 1923 and the receiver ring is stamped Model 1899. These models were dropped with the introduction of the medium weight barrel about 1926. David


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Originally Posted by wyo1895
Rory, They did add 22HP, 303 Sav., 30-30 Win. and 300 Savage to the former Model 1899 250-3000 and called it the Model 99G.
The newest rifle I have with the 1899 stamp is a 99H in 303 made in 1925. I also have a 99C and a 99D both in 300 with 24" rifle weight barrels. Both were made in 1923 and the receiver ring is stamped Model 1899. These models were dropped with the introduction of the medium weight barrel about 1926. David
Oh, there were cartridge changes for sure. From what I'm seeing, the 300 Savage introduction seems to coincide exactly with the introduction of the 99 models.

But to Savage, I doubt that adding model letters to their rifles in late 1921 and adding a new cartridge to the lineup was any more of a change than adding the featherweight in 1905, or the Leader in 1904, or the 30-30 in 1900, or <etc>. It was not a ground breaking structural change.. in 1921, it was probably mostly marketing.

Sales guys: "Hey, it's getting hard to sell guns to folks that think this is all stuff from the last century. Can we change the name on our marketing stuff to help show our awesome new cartridge isn't a fuddy duddy black powder round?".
Production: "What do you want us to change?"
Sales guys: "Nothing, just let us call it the '99 and let's give letters to each type rather than call it stuff like the 22 inch saddle gun."
Production: "Fine. We could care less.."

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If actual changes to the rifles were the reason for changing from 1899 to 99, then that would have happened over 2 years earlier at the end of WWI. Those changes to the guns and to the rifles being offered dwarf what happened in late 1921 (drop 1899B, 1899C, 1899F, change all stocks from perchbelly to straight, crown most of the barrels, drop premium grades that were left, etc).


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dang so much good info and i have the flu. can't remember my name, never going to file this in the gray mush today.


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