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Not that any of ya'll would know about the "INs and OUTs of it, but I'm thinking I might be able to save a few dollars...I'm sitting here, on my fourth beer & wishing I didn't have to go to town to replenish my supply of alcohol...I don't really give a chit if it's wine, hard stuff, or beer......between late June and early August, I've got a solid supply of blackberries and would like to be able to take advantage of the natural resource...I'd be capable of building a still, but I'd rather not...back in the day, I crushed up some Thompson seedless grapes, threw in some flieshmans yeast, and drank the results a week later...from what I recall, the results were good..Any recipes/ guidance???


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You gonna catch De Gouch on them shins. Then you'll wearing Crocs to vent them flaming big toes. lol

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Google UJSM or uncle jesse's sour mash. That's the best reciepe for a beginner runnin a still IMO.

ujsm recipe site:homedistiller.org

Copy and paste that into google at the expense of your liver.

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Dago red, what you just posted. I make several decent wines with juice, sugar and champagne yeast. You can freeze out the water 2 or 3 times to concentrate the kick.

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I did make some peach wine once. First two primaries blew off the airlocks and painted my pantry ceiling with peach-barf.

The surving batches tasted like that crap the romans gave Jesus on a sponge while he was on the cross

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MFM,

I make both beer and wine, but mostly wine. It's hard to save much money making beer, but you can make very good wine for a fraction of what you pay at the liquor store.

For a simple book on making berry wines etc. I recommend "The Winemaker's recipe handbook" by Raymond Massaccesi. Great simple recipe's for fruit wines.

If you want to try a simple way to make grape wines, there's some very good kits available. They will have all the ingredients you need along with clear instructions. The one warning I'll give on these is they generally have sub par yeast included. Pick something in line with your chosen grape varietal.

I will warn you, it can be addicting. I started with a food safe plastic bucket and a couple of carboy, but have since graduated to a 14 gallon stainless steel fer menter.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
MFM,

I make both beer and wine, but mostly wine. It's hard to save much money making beer, but you can make very good wine for a fraction of what you pay at the liquor store.

For a simple book on making berry wines etc. I recommend "The Winemaker's recipe handbook" by Raymond Massaccesi. Great simple recipe's for fruit wines.

If you want to try a simple way to make grape wines, there's some very good kits available. They will have all the ingredients you need along with clear instructions. The one warning I'll give on these is they generally have sub par yeast included. Pick something in line with your chosen grape varietal.

I will warn you, it can be addicting. I started with a food safe plastic bucket and a couple of carboy, but have since graduated to a 14 gallon stainless steel fer menter.





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Easiest would be wine.

Ale pail, lid and bottling spigot: https://www.northernbrewer.com/brew...ing-equipment/brewing-fermenting-buckets

$21 or there abouts.

Airlock if ya wanna get fancy: https://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/brewing-equipment/fermenting-equipment/fermentation-locs

Cheapest concentrated grape juice ya can find, and bout 8-12 pounds a sugar, dependin on how much ya wanna get kicked.

Ya gotta be able ta boil water, tho.

Cool it off and add yeast. Yeast can be picky about how much alky they'll make for ya, some make more than others, but then flavor comes into play.

Let it bubble down, and drink it right outta the bucket.

Blackberries and natural fruits sound like a good idea, but they're much more likely to introduce a bug you don't want in your mash, which if you're lucky, will only cause it ta taste like shat.

Sometimes, it'll cost ya the whole run.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


I will warn you, it can be addicting. I started with a food safe plastic bucket and a couple of carboy, but have since graduated to a 14 gallon stainless steel fer menter.



We're on the same page....thanks.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski


Blackberries and natural fruits sound like a good idea, but they're much more likely to introduce a bug you don't want in your mash, which if you're lucky, will only cause it ta taste like shat.

Sometimes, it'll cost ya the whole run.


Just add you sulfides, and pitch your yeast 24 hours later.


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Been my experience that eve if the wine tastes like shat the still can salvage the alcohol.

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I don’t think MM is looking for Spanokpitas quality wine, just something slightly above prison toilet hooch. 😁


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Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
.....between late June and early August, I've got a solid supply of blackberries and would like to be able to take advantage of the natural resource...I'd be capable of building a still, but I'd rather not...?


First thing that popped into my mind is "I wonder what blackberry brandy would taste like?"


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t think MM is looking for Spanokpitas quality wine, just something slightly above prison toilet hooch. 😁

I bet MM could choke down Spankers relabeled, repackaged, box wine.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
MFM,

I make both beer and wine, but mostly wine. It's hard to save much money making beer, but you can make very good wine for a fraction of what you pay at the liquor store.

For a simple book on making berry wines etc. I recommend "The Winemaker's recipe handbook" by Raymond Massaccesi. Great simple recipe's for fruit wines.

If you want to try a simple way to make grape wines, there's some very good kits available. They will have all the ingredients you need along with clear instructions. The one warning I'll give on these is they generally have sub par yeast included. Pick something in line with your chosen grape varietal.

I will warn you, it can be addicting. I started with a food safe plastic bucket and a couple of carboy, but have since graduated to a 14 gallon stainless steel fer menter.




When you make beer are you brewing from grain or extracts? I got the homebrewing bug a few years back and made a few batches of ale in my garage/fermented in the basement. I was using extract kits. Results were decent but like you said you don't save much money. I think going all grain is cheaper but then you have a longer process/more equipment.

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I'd guess that making liquor is kinda like handloading ammo.

You spend just as much, but you take more shots.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
MFM,

I make both beer and wine, but mostly wine. It's hard to save much money making beer, but you can make very good wine for a fraction of what you pay at the liquor store.

For a simple book on making berry wines etc. I recommend "The Winemaker's recipe handbook" by Raymond Massaccesi. Great simple recipe's for fruit wines.

If you want to try a simple way to make grape wines, there's some very good kits available. They will have all the ingredients you need along with clear instructions. The one warning I'll give on these is they generally have sub par yeast included. Pick something in line with your chosen grape varietal.

I will warn you, it can be addicting. I started with a food safe plastic bucket and a couple of carboy, but have since graduated to a 14 gallon stainless steel fer menter.




When you make beer are you brewing from grain or extracts? I got the homebrewing bug a few years back and made a few batches of ale in my garage/fermented in the basement. I was using extract kits. Results were decent but like you said you don't save much money. I think going all grain is cheaper but then you have a longer process/more equipment.


Jonny,

So far I've only worked with extract kits. Generally they would include some grains to steep for added flavor, but be discarded before fermentation. My local brew store stocks an incredible array of grains, and they will even grind them for you. Perhaps someday I'll make that leap.


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