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No downsides at all having a faster twist than the standard 1 in 10 in 270 Win if going with a custom tube.
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Dogger,
I got to know John Lazzaroni pretty well. He told me that the big money was in sale of brass not rifles. Notice how Nosler has created demand by introducing cartridges for which only Nosler sells brass. Smart business. Now convince everyone that these new cartridges are just what they need. Profits!
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All this plus the [/b] ancient 270 shoots flatter than a Creedmoor out to 440 [b] which is my self imposed limit...maybe 500.
Hallelujah ! Praise the Lord ! Pass the Jar !Finally, somebody put this in print FROM experience. BobinNH told the SAME thing to another Fire Member. I'll not drag him into this. I hope he joins in voluntarily. Bob had a 6.5 Creed and SHOT it and said, "This thing drops more than the 270 !" Thank You Sir: Jerry
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jwall Bobby and I laughed and then laughed some more about how the ancient 270 out performed the 6.5 Creedmoor out to about 500 for BG hunting. He got that Creedmoor barreled action from me. I got the parts in a trade and sent it to Bobby cause he was curious about all the fussing and noise. It is what it is, 140 @ 2700. BFD!
Now just wait for the number lovers to start sending numbers and charts and graphs.
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..... For me a perfect general purpose rifle moves a 130-150 at 2950-3100. Flat shooting, manageable recoil, light weight, and reasonable size. Pick a suitable bullet, it does the real work. Bore between .26 & .30.
DANG! I don’t know how I missed that... It sure sounds FAMILIAR Are you a brother from a diff mother ? Anyone who has read much from me KNOWS fast & flat gets my chores DONE. Jerry
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sigh... my 280 and its utility has kept me from buying so many rifles chambered for other cartridges. I do need a 270, just so the two can argue relative merits with each other in the safe.
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GO... DO NOT STOP... GET ONE ! I'm just encouraging a fellow 'fire' member. Jerry
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I have been fascinated with the idea of a 6.5-06, 6.5 PRC, or 6.5-280 Ackley but then I run the numbers out to 500 and consider ammo availability and then leave good enuf alone and build another 270W.
I think I have finally built the perfect one...hah...laughing at myself. So... if someone were to market the 6.5RinB in a 1:8 twist, long action, .473 bolt face, 30 degree shoulder, capable of pushing a 127 grain LRX to 2975+ in a 22" barrel, with factory ammo available wherever 270 is sold, at $30 a box, RinB might get off the 270... this should be easy...
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But isn't that sorta the 6.5-280 RCBS 30 Degree, minus the inexpensive brass and ammo...
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jwall Bobby and I laughed and then laughed some more about how the ancient 270 out performed the 6.5 Creedmoor out to about 500 for BG hunting. He got that Creedmoor barreled action from me. I got the parts in a trade and sent it to Bobby cause he was curious about all the fussing and noise. It is what it is, 140 @ 2700. BFD!
I remember the call the first day he shot that one at the range - "Skaaaawt, this thing drops like lead - gimme the phaaawwking .270......Do you want another Creedmoor?"
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jwall Bobby and I laughed and then laughed some more about how the ancient 270 out performed the 6.5 Creedmoor out to about 500 for BG hunting. He got that Creedmoor barreled action from me. I got the parts in a trade and sent it to Bobby cause he was curious about all the fussing and noise. It is what it is, 140 @ 2700. BFD!
I remember the call the first day he shot that one at the range - "Skaaaawt, this thing drops like lead - gimme the phaaawwking .270......Do you want another Creedmoor?" These are deserving of a STICKY !!
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The 6.5 PRC is a great idea...same as that which Warren Page developed in the late 1960’s...his 6.5-270 Improved. The beauty of the 6.5 PRC is that Hornady will make a bundle of $ selling brass which only Hornady makes and gun makers will sell many new short action rifles to those who think that SHORT & FAT is a virtue. Me, I like TALL & LEAN.
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Mr. Rin I remember Bob saying he liked the "long lanky" cartridges.
I have had several S A. 243 and 308 and 257 R and 6mm Rem in a 700. I've Had em, I've TRIED em. They don't trip my switch.
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jwall Bobby and I laughed and then laughed some more about how the ancient 270 out performed the 6.5 Creedmoor out to about 500 for BG hunting. He got that Creedmoor barreled action from me. I got the parts in a trade and sent it to Bobby cause he was curious about all the fussing and noise. It is what it is, 140 @ 2700. BFD!
I remember the call the first day he shot that one at the range - "Skaaaawt, this thing drops like lead - gimme the phaaawwking .270......Do you want another Creedmoor?" I got the same call Scott. Cracked me up. I also remember explaining mils on Bobs first 6x SS. That was a good phone call. I’ll give him props though, he was putting some great groups up at 600 once he sorted it out. I knew that scope would never push his 6x36 with Dotz off the Mashburn though! It’s funny how hard the 6.5 Rem Mag flopped. If it were released today it would’ve probably sold like hot cakes.
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Hey "Scotty", I know Bob called you that. I was HOPING you would join this with YOUR perspective. Thnx Jerry
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Hey "Scotty", I know Bob called you that. I was HOPING you would join this with YOUR perspective. Thnx Jerry By all accounts I can figure Bob wasn’t wrong. I’m a young guy around here but he and RinB speak from years of experience. The part that really makes those fellas tops in my book is they will try new things and give an honest answer from their viewpoint. Bob could’ve sold ice to eskimos. After the first two hours of speaking to him I had a rifle at my smiths becoming a Mashburn and had started hunting down Bitterroots... I’m still searching for any Bitterroots I can find. I figure if I have at least a 100 of them I have enough to build a rifle. I remember talking to Bob from Wyoming after I took an Elk with the Bitterroot and he said “what do you think Scotty” I said “you’re right buddy, it crushes em” Miss that fella everyday. He was a lion of a great guy that loved to hunt and talk good rifles and Bullets. My kinda fella.
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Yes, indeed. Bob was a friend I never met nor hunted with. We talked enuff over the years that I got to know him >> not like you or Mr. Rin. or Skane and Paul but we had a lot in common. Our last PM was in Oct 2016 and we discussed our health issues. His last post on the fire was Feb 1, the day before he passed.
We have lost a repository of experience.
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Agreed, was a good fella to have around here.
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