Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire If The "Legal Theory" Behind Mueller's Indictment Of The Russians Is Correct .....

..... (And I Am Not Necessarily Saying That It Is) .... Then Real Question Is:

"When can we see similar indictments of Christopher Steele, FusionGPS, the Perkins Coie Law Firm, the DNC, and the Clinton Campaign?"

Very simply, Mueller indicted foreign citizens for trying to influence the American public about an election because those citizens did not register as a foreign agent nor record their financial expenditures to the Federal Elections Commission. He has claimed the social media political activity of the Russian Trolls was criminal because: they were foreign citizens; they tried to influence an election; and they neither registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act nor reported their funding to the Federal Elections Commission.

OK ..... now let's take a look at the British ex-spook, Christopher Steele: If Mueller’s theory is correct, three things make Steele a criminal: first, he is a foreign citizen; second, he tried to influence an election, which he received payments to do (including from the FBI itself); and third, he neither registered as a foreign agent nor listed his receipts and expenditures to the Federal Election Commission. Also, according to the FBI, along the way, Steele lied…a lot, while the dossier he disseminated contained its own lies based on bought-and-paid for smears from foreign sources reliant on rumors and innuendo.

What about FusionGPS, the Perkins Coie Law Firm, the DNC, and the Clinton Campaign? While not "foreign citizens" each is a "criminal co-conspirator" that furthered Christopher Steele's criminal activities: they all knew Steele was a foreign citizen; they knew Steele was being used to influence an election, and ultimately they paid, or facilitated in the payment of, money to Steele for the express purpose of influencing an election; and while they were doing all of that they knew that Steele had not registered as a foreign agent nor had he reported the funds that he received from them to the Federal Election Commission, and thereby they facilitated Steele's actions in committing those crimes.

Soooo .... using The Grand Inquisitor's Legal Logic ...... when we will a similar indictment for that foreign parasite, Christoper Steele, and the Merry Band of Democrap Miscreants associated with Steele and Hitlary's Campaign?

The answer is NEVER. You see ..... we have one set of laws for The Evil Russian Trolls (who will never be extradited or see a U.S. Court) and another set of laws for the Democraps and their limey parasite buddy .... who would, in all likelihood, see a U.S. Court Room if they were ever indicted for what amounts to the same conduct.

See:

https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/doe...mpaign-can-be-indicted-for-chris-steele/

I'd think Don Jr. isn't sleeping well tonight.

Did you read the counts Mueller brought against the Russians? Conspiracy to commit bank and wire fraud, aggravated identity theft, conspiracy to defraud the US, is there any evidence Steele engaged in those types of illegal activities? Apples and oranges.

Vanity Fair Article: "How Ex-Spy Christopher Steele Compiled His Explosive Trump-Russia Dossier"> Interesting article.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

Apparently, any Russians extradited will not testify to ANYTHING, if recent history means anything.

So, what have you to say in defense of your party of choice having foisted this subterfuge on the American people, djs?

Mueller "indicted" those 13 so-called Russians knowing very well that he will never have to prove his case in court, nor follow up with updates on the "investigation", and that once this piece of propaganda spends itself in the Propaganda Corps cycle, it'll die a quiet death and he can continue to tilt at windmills and chase phantoms. I doubt those 13 Russians even exist. They are probably as made-up as the dossier.

For certain no legal expert here - and very little insight to the fed guv skullduggery - but my impression from those Russian indictments is that Mueller is trying to set the table for something closer to home, and maybe nefarious.

I don't believe we'll ever see any of the Russian players in a US Courtroom. Of course, they'll never come back to the US, either.

Yes I did. My comments above related to specific allegations in Count One of the indictment that were relevant to Steele and the Democraps that I mentioned. Are all Three Counts in the indictment relevant to Steele and the Democrap Miscreants .... No (apparently not). But, I will make it real simple for you: Separate Counts ... Separate Violations ... Separate Statutes .... Separate Crimes.

I suggest that you re-read paragraphs 7. and 9. of the indictment:





"All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371."

Now .... if Steele, FusionGPS, the Perkins Coie Law Firm, the DNC and Hitlary's Campaign also conspired to commit wire fraud and bank fraud and engaged in identity theft .... that would be "icing on the cake."

Which would be violations of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1349 and 1028(A)(a)(1) and (2), respectively.

One attorney that I read says that the indictment is absurd and is nothing but a PR event. If so, does that mean Meuller decided there was really never anything there? And he had to get an indictment to serve as a fig leaf?

Without the "icing on the cake" the comparison becomes a false equivalency. Did Steele engage in any of the behavior described in paragraphs 7 through 9? Did Steele spend his own money in the US using deceit and deception in an effort to influence the outcome of the election. Or in contrast did he privately contact US authorities with his concerns?

My first thought as well. Mueller's way out while attempting to save face. This does provide the opportunity to "exit stage left". Also great timing to move the conversation away from FBI bungling in Broward school shooting, and FBI member's actual attempts at interference in the election.

OTOH, I suppose it -could- Muller's way in; I guess time will tell.

It shows that there is no there, there. We can indict hundreds of overseas conspirators everyday of the week, if we wanted. It means absolutely nothing.

It creates a detour for them to "prove" Russian collusion without ever having to prosecute anybody on either side of the aisle.

That, being interpreted, means that they found Democrat problems but not enough against Republicans to make it bad for the conservatives. So exit stage left before they have to prosecute some big-name Dems, such as Hillary and Zero.

Don't hire that lawyer. That imposes travel restrictions on the indicted. Bounce around the world like those rich guys are used to, land in a country we have an extradition treaty with and could very well end up in a US court. Sorta like sanctions on steroids. Playing silly reindeer games with Putin, there is a down side.

If Mueller is rational what he's doing is closing out one branch of the investigation because he's come to a dead end. That's typically when the indictments come out.

Crickets.

Well, politics is politics (including he dirty kind, but you've got to stay within legal bounds). But then, Mueller is on the trail of illegal (not dirty) actions. Event he director of National Security (H.R. McMaster) has admitted (finally) that the Russians meddled in out election (according to FOX News).
see: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rove-russia-meddled-in-us-elections.html

But then, some here will still yell "Fake News", just as they've said before. Or, only DJT still believes it.

This garbage is akin to Vietnam or Cuba or Iran "indicting" American CIA agents when they're back in the US. Gimme a break...

Of course they meddled.Thats who helped Steele write that mud slinging BS dossier for Clinton.Surely you figured out that dossier was part of the Russian meddling.Even an idiot would trip over that one.