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Curious about the Ziess V4 4-16x44. I know these are new, but wondering if anyone has had any experience with one yet. Looks interesting... Exposed elevation turret w/ zero stop, capped windage, decent reticle options. Got a coupon in my email to get one for about $815. That price puts it in competition for a spot on one of my rifles... if it turns out to be solid. Any thoughts on these, good or bad?
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I saw one last week at a trade show. its the most impressive scope I have ever looked at optically, particularly one with that much scope power. ziess also offers the V6 which IMO isn't anywhere near as good of a scope the v6 has quite a bit of tunneling at all powers. the v4 has a huge view with a very thin outer portion its almost like looking through air. very very impressive. 4x on the low end doesn't feel like 4x because the view appears so big. The have some great reticle choices, zero stop turret, low profile parallax and covered windage. exactly the kind of things people have been asking for. They also offer a 3-12x56 that they claim is marketed toward back east and south hunters. its got covered turrets and the big objective. I wish they offered it with an elevation turret and a 44 or 42 mm objective. 3-12 is exactly the power range I would like. I would definitely buy a 3-12 if they offered it like that. I still will probably pick up a 4-16, The main thing I want to check is tracking, If they track these are an awesome scope.
the zeiss sales guys told me, its jap glass assembled by LOW in japan with german made internals that are sent over to japan for assembly. the V6 models are the same but use schott glass instead.
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Wrong. V6 is made in Germany and assembled in Germany and has different internal components. There is more to it than different glass.
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Wrong. V6 is made in Germany and assembled in Germany and has different internal components. There is more to it than different glass. correct ^^^^^^^^
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Doug, in your estimation, is the V6 worth the upgrade in price over the V4?
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6.
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around.
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no?
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no? Better quality internals and Scott glass I’d certainly go for the V6 over the V4.
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^^^^^^^^^^^
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no? Better quality internals and Scott glass I’d certainly go for the V6 over the V4. +1 and on the Zeiss website 92% light transmission vs 90% for the VX4
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2% thats like non fat milk, why bother. Bet the price difference is more than 2%. Will look up later.
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100% higher price for 2% gain in light transmission. TFF! I do understand there are other things your money buys you when you go from the V4 to the V6 but the 2% difference in light transmission is what was highlighted.
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no? Better quality internals and Scott glass I’d certainly go for the V6 over the V4. so let me get this straight your telling me how much better a scope is that you haven't even seen in person? and your disagreeing with information that was given to me face to face from the sales manger of the company? interesting......... just when I thought the optics forum couldn't get any nuttier. oh yeah the topic starter asked who has seen these scopes, why are you commenting?
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100% higher price for 2% gain in light transmission. TFF! I do understand there are other things your money buys you when you go from the V4 to the V6 but the 2% difference in light transmission is what was highlighted. That's a common theme in optics ,rifles,cars and other things. V6 has way more adjustment range, better in lowlight and has better reticle choices as well.
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no? Better quality internals and Scott glass I’d certainly go for the V6 over the V4. so let me get this straight your telling me how much better a scope is that you haven't even seen in person? and your disagreeing with information that was given to me face to face from the sales manger of the company? interesting......... just when I thought the optics forum couldn't get any nuttier. oh yeah the topic starter asked who has seen these scopes, why are you commenting? You’re the nutty SOB, Doug disputed your BS info
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no? Better quality internals and Scott glass I’d certainly go for the V6 over the V4. +1 and on the Zeiss website 92% light transmission vs 90% for the VX4 Light transmission doesn’t tell the full stor6 of better glass plus better internals.
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Ok the sales manager for zeiss sports optics lied to me. Compare v4 to v6 side by side. No way your picking the v6. Why not? The V6 is a higher quality scope all the way around. have you compared them. Side by side? Yes or no? Better quality internals and Scott glass I’d certainly go for the V6 over the V4. so let me get this straight your telling me how much better a scope is that you haven't even seen in person? and your disagreeing with information that was given to me face to face from the sales manger of the company? interesting......... just when I thought the optics forum couldn't get any nuttier. oh yeah the topic starter asked who has seen these scopes, why are you commenting? Wrong. V6 is made in Germany and assembled in Germany and has different internal components. There is more to it than different glass. correct ^^^^^^^^ Cumminscowboy Your info sucks.
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Thanks for the replies. Some good info. I'll let you guys duke out the details. V6 is a little outta my price range but V4 is appealing. Seems like it is too new for anyone to have much shooting time with one yet. If I end up with one I'll report back. It is definitely in the running for my next scope.
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I'm looking at the Zeiss catalog furnished to EuroOptic:
Conquest V6: 30mm main tube - Matte Black - Second Focal Plane - Schott FL Glass - T* /Six Layer Transmission Coating - LotuTec Hydrophobic Coating
Retail prices from $1,549.99 to $1,899.99. Three Scope offerings, some with exposed turrets - multiple reticle choices, some illuminated.
Conquest V4: 30mm main tube - Matte Black - Second Focal Plane - some with Exposed Turrets - T* Six Layer Transmission Coating - LotuTec Hydrophobic Coating.
Retail prices from $799.99 to $1,199.99. Four scope offerings with multiple reticle choices, some illuminated.
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