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Ky221,

My usual choice for yotes & WT is my Model 760 Remington pump in .244 Remington or my 760 in .300SAV with GCCB.
(My beloved Darla would choose her Model 7615 for both sorts of game.)

Coyotes & deer just aren't that hard to kill. = May I remind you/everyone that the old-school .22 Hornet as taken MANY of both species & that doesn't even consider the equally old-school .22 Savage HP.

Furthermore, IF the typical range is 100M or less, I might well reach for my .300 SAV & load it with my 170grain PBCB loads at about 1400FPS that are a "clone" of the .32-40WCF.

yours, tex

Deer make lots better eating than 'yotes.

trplen,

I never had a yen to try to eat a yote, though I've had all sorts of meat dishes OCONUS over the last 50 years. - Venison is my favorite game, followed closely by bear.

yours, tex

You could get a Barret Fieldcraft in 243 7-twist and be done with it.

257 Roberts (assuming that you hand-load). Pre64 M70 action, custom barrel of your choice, Micky stock.

I think I’d go .22 Creedmoor. Nearly identical capacity to 22-250 AI but won’t need to fireform.

John

30-06 will kill the hell out of coyotes and deer too.Many bullets to pick from.

Most of my cowboys down on the ranch preferred the .25-06. They hunted both desert mule deer and Coues whitetails, but the owners paid $10 per coyote tail, so a lot more coyotes than deer were taken.

When I put together a rifle for hunting deer and coyotes, it was a lightweight .257 AI on a Mexican Mauser action. Given the need, I would probably do the same thing again. It's also a very good cartridge for pronghorns.

The .25-06 was here be the c reed and will be in use when the creed is forgotten..

The 6.5 Creed would do it all, many good rifles being sold today, very long barrel life, easy to shoot. However, the 6.5 will make a mess out of a pelt.

Get what you want to kill deer with, if it will kill deer it will kill coyotes.

A bud was shooting the 75 AMax at 3550 fps with RL26 from his long barreled, fast twist 220 swift a couple summers ago. That thing was a monster. He was at least as successful on the 1200 yard steel plate as I was with a .243 and 105 AMax. We happened to run into an older gentleman at another shooting range one day who was shooting the same bullet with the same powder from his 22-250AI at 3450 fps. That was his preferred gun for 1,000 yard steel.

If a .224" rifle is legal for deer is your area, a 22-250AI should work just fine with several bullets. And the 75 ELD at such high velocities just might be the ultimate coyote slayer.

Depending on brass , it might be a smidge greater capacity !

Why ? Shoulder diameter of the CM at .462", is as much as .010" greater than the AI chambering.
I've seen & measured AI's that weren't even .450" Nominally it is .454" Depends on the reamer.

Less body taper can effect the useable capacity fairly significantly.
Comparing 30 degree to 40 degree shoulder angles is deceptive.

Is the 22 CM standardized ?

A fast twist 22-250 is my truck gun or an AR, depending on my mood. Both are great for hogs, yotes, and deer.

You definitely have lots of great choices. Fast twist 22s, 243, 6mm Rem or CM, 6.5 CM, 260, and many others.

If deer make up 50% or more of the intended use, I would lean hard towards the 25-06. I have a #1 stainless varminter with a 26" barrel that I love. I would use it with zero hesitation for what you want. 25-06 is made for that and is no slouch for a deer only setup. You will not be disappointed in a 25-06 but get at least a 24 inch barrel. Theybare just loud with less. If you want less, consider a different cartridge.

I had this discussion with myself when I had my first custom built. I selected the .240 Weatherby, but I had always wanted one. Its definately built to carry, although it is not Kimber light, more of a standard weight, with a good barrel and 27" long to try and wring out a bit more speed. Its been a great rifle. I would suspect that you could build a great carry rifle with a 24 or 26" barrel and a good stock that will meet all of your needs. Its a great caliber. I bought another one since then when Cabelas had the Accuguard on sale, and it is a great rifle as well.

A 270 wouldn’t be a bad choice.

Good call on the 240 WBY. A WBY UL in 240 WBY or 25-06 is a sweet handling dual purpose setup. Those rifles are sweet. Like you said, not Kimber light but very handy. Might be a bit better than the Kimber if someone was concerned about a rifle being too light.

I really can't see an advantage to the 22-250 (AI'd or not) over a 243 win. I have both and load for both and I'm just not seeing it.

Most perfect? Coyote and deer?

Hmmm. It’d be 5.56 to 6.5 in caliber. Case capacity in the 40 to 55ish range. ROT at 8 or so. I think it be barreled 20-22 inches.

It’d weigh about 7#’s or so ready to go and loaded.

I’d have a glass stock fitted as well as some nice walnut. If not around the salt regularly, then rust blued cro mo. If so, stainless.

So what the OP is saying is he needs either a 6mm Rem or a 257 Roberts. Every body knows that anything x57 makes it instantly classy.