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What doya think? I do my gambling other ways. Do the casinos do the tribes any good?
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They generate a lot of revenue and create jobs.
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Never been to a casino. My gambling consists of maybe buying a lottery ticket once a year. I have a farm........that's gamble enough.
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The deer lease in East Texas adjoins the Alabama Goschitta Indian Reservation. They have a casino there. The Indians get a check every month. Free money! What’s not to like.
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"They generate a lot of revenue and create jobs." For the tribe elders. A look at the blood laws pertaining to profit distribution is enlightening.The Casinos also bring in a huge amount of crime to the nearby communities. The vast majority of the financial burden falls on the local taxpayers.
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Casino revenue pays for many things. Schools, clinics, and the like. All depends on how the tribe wants to spend the money.
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They do help subsidize the tribe....
Its not fair to allow them to have a casino in states that gambling is not legal....
I refuse to go to a Indian Casino...I'am 25 % never took anything from the government or the tribe payed for my own collage....have done OK for myself retired at 51....
The next step is growing marijuana....there are tribes already starting up....
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"They generate a lot of revenue and create jobs." For the tribe elders. A look at the blood laws pertaining to profit distribution is enlightening.The Casinos also bring in a huge amount of crime to the nearby communities. The vast majority of the financial burden falls on the local taxpayers. You say that as if every tribe is alike. Which blood laws and profit distribution plans are you referring to? Which neighborhoods? No two are alike, I've stayed in several casino hotels, some are really, really nice.
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The next step is growing marijuana....there are tribes already starting up....
Everybody is growing marijuana.
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The ones I’ve been in, in Ok and N M don’t use dice on the crap tables and Blackjack rules are different than Nevada, so I avoid them.
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Casinos around here have seemingly generated more tribes than could be imagined. I see indian tags on cars daily for tribes I never heard of growing up but they all have a casino now. Around here they’re run just like everything else the indians run, poorly and rife with corruption. Embezzlement runs rampant among them, I know of one guy who was fired as an accountant for two or three different casinos for stealing from them and have heard of many others. Mostly stupid poor white folk you see going in and out to blow their paycheck, almost never see an indian in one other than the girls giving out free soda pops. I feel like it’s another BS special interest scheme that they can have a gambling hall but I can’t build one across the road on my place because gambling is illegal in this state. But hey, someone persecuted them 150 years ago so what the hell.
If you can’t tell I’m not a huge fan but I doubt that’s going to change anything or anyone’s mind so oh well.
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We spent one night at the Indian Casino in northern Idaho. The food was terrible, the gambling area was smoky and very small consisting mostly of slot machines, but the room was fantastic plus cheap.
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What doya think? I do my gambling other ways. Do the casinos do the tribes any good? It would certainly appear they do. My lady friend likes to go and listen to the free live music and drink a few cocktails. I'm the driver and limit myself to a beer or two depending how long we stay. The only thing we gamble on is the buffet occasionally.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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Up here in Mn. there's several casinos. Not one dime of my money gets spent there. The Tribes got treaty "rights" to net walleyes every spring on MIlle Lacs, one of the best known walleye fisheries in the state. Non-tribal members now must endure a one fish limit, and many times it's strictly catch and release so that the tribe can net the lake. The Mom and Pop resorts on the lake are going broke, as people choose to go elsewhere to fish. The west side of the lake is seeing lots of real estate being bought up by the tribe. It's not a good situation, and I refuse to support the tribe or their businesses.
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I can't speak for all the tribes and casino's in arizona, there is controversy about them. like a tribe in southern arizona purchasing land in glendale, part of the greater phoenix area, and it's now tribal land, so a new casino.
However, in and around my home town of prescott, is the yavapai tribe. They wouldn't have that land if it wasnt white businessman a long time ago getting congress to approve it. When the sheridan went up on tribal land, businessmen in the community helped them get it going prewired for the casino part. when that was allowed, it got opened for that. The casino is used often in meeting rooms etc by various groups in the community, non indian. The small tribe now provides a good income for every member which is spent in the prescott area. There may be a downside to it, but i haven't seen it. Place is very clean.
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i've been to the northern quest Indian casino in Spokane, and it was really nice. I didn't gamble more than maybe $20.00, but the room was really nice, the casino seemed nice (no free beer, some Wa. law) and the food was really good. I wouldn't make a special trip there, but wouldn't hesitate to stay there again.
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Up here in Mn. there's several casinos. Not one dime of my money gets spent there. The Tribes got treaty "rights" to net walleyes every spring on MIlle Lacs, one of the best known walleye fisheries in the state. Non-tribal members now must endure a one fish limit, and many times it's strictly catch and release so that the tribe can net the lake. The Mom and Pop resorts on the lake are going broke, as people choose to go elsewhere to fish. The west side of the lake is seeing lots of real estate being bought up by the tribe. It's not a good situation, and I refuse to support the tribe or their businesses. Jeff, I grew up adjacent to White Earth. Saw the poverty. The family did what it could to help. I remember seeing Mille Lacs Reservation when I was kid and it was really bad. I do not begrudge them any of what they have from the casinos. I have heard that the one down by you generates ~ half a million/year/member. Ojibwe bands did not "get" rights to the fish in the ECM lakes, they retained them in the treaties. At the time of the treaties there was not much of value here and they retained those rights as their sole means of support. That we have had a lot of fishing water for a lot of years is a matter of their largesse. Not all of the bands here retained their rights. The one over in Danbury east of deer camp has a very good buffet most nights. The one in Hinckley, not so good. Cloquet is good.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I am probably a bit biased.....as I hate...HATE all known casinos. Pawn shops too.
You can watch a community falter by watching to see how many casinos and pawn shops move in. HATE them.
Having said that, the Indian casino can go both ways. Apparently in some places the tribe takes good care of its members with the earnings from the casinos.
In other places the graft and theft and corruption is astounding. The plains Indian up here is not very good at taking care of his own.
Its a crap shoot......hehehe......as to whether the Tribe takes care of its own or not.
I am MAGA.
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We have at least 3 Indian casinos in Louisiana. The tribal members all share in the revenue. I have not noticed any uptick in crime. As far as jobs, the people I've seen that work there look like palefaces to me.
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I think we live in the heart of Indian casino territory. I can be at 12 different casinos within 40 min of my front door. We go to one for lunch most Saturdays. They do a military ,Emergency personnel for 50% off lunch. Me and the wife eat for $8.00 10min from the house. You can find some good concerts here and there, comedy shows etc. They do bring in dollars and provide jobs ( that pay surprisingly well along with above average benefits )
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