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The left makes that very same argument in opposition to the general right to keep and bear arms, other than by government approved "professionals."

No different than I'd feel if my child were wounded or killed by a policeman or security guard doing the same thing.

The one common denominator among nearly all these mass shootings is that they take place in a "gun free zone".

Gun stores and police offices are rarely targets for mass shootings.

"It's a job for well trained professionals who know how and when to engage a threat so that collateral damage is avoided."

So you believe the right to defend yourself is only granted to well trained professionals.

I wouldn't mind it but I would want a security vault that was in my classroom. Very few teachers would engage like the gents at Lakeland HS. However, you would do what is necessary to save your students.

You remember the coach who was killed trying to protect students in the most recent school shooting?

I wish he'd have had a Glock in his pocket. Might not have changed a thing, but he'd at least had a fighting chance.

Every LEO was once a civilian, and probably will be again. They have no magical, superior natural capability.

It's funny what we've been conditioned to think. Badge+gun=good.
Hell, we'll let a complete stranger cut our chest or head open without a second thought, just because he's wearing a white lab coat.

I know a preacher that moved from here to one of the Carolinas to take another church. He is not a "gun guy" but told me on one of his visits here that he now carries.

This world is messed up.

Just think of the uncertainty, for criminals, produced by knowing that one in three school employees is trained and equipped. That is very much within reach. Why do we assume teachers can't learn or don't care? ;-{>8

Arm teachers??? So they can do exactly what??? Let's try bringing back ass whoopins first....respect for the flag and mandatory pledge of allegiance at the beginning of the school day....turning off electronics (cell phones, I pods, etc.) we never had these mass school shootings back before the hard core socialists took over the education system and started turning our young men and women into what we used to call sociopaths by condoning and even encouraging what was once called abhorrent behavior....

Trap, you have much more confidence in our education system than I. Not sure but I believe it was Hitler. That said ya can take over an entire country with out firing a shot. Through educating the children. Take a look around for the last fifty or so years. And we are suppose to think these same people will do what is right for the same country, and principals in which they are distroying????






Take care, Willie

I am all for arming teachers and others carrying on campus. Obviously the gun free zones don't prevent criminals from bringing guns on campus so why should I be banned from the practice. I don't think they should be required to get special training and don't think it should be mandatory. However, I believe it should be advertised that people may be armed at the schools so if you plan to murder someone there you had better think twice. You might be facing one or several gun carriers that you don't know about.

"Arm teachers??? So they can do exactly what???"

Protect themselves and their students. Ass whippings don't work anymore because of all the poor kids with ADHD and autism that have little self control.

Teachers? gemme a break. How many school teachers do you guys know?

There is by no doubt more students more qualified to carry than teachers..

Armed guards, even a few at each school would only by chance be in the right place at the right time....

Keep thinking...............

I'm of the opinion we see a lot more of the latter because of a lack of the former, rather than a decrease in effectiveness.

If you have multiple armed defenders engaging an active shooter in a crowded hallway filled with panicked people there will most likely be collateral casualties. Friendly fire casualties. That is no argument against armed defenders. They would most likely save many more than they might wound or kill. It is almost a guarantee that a more adept and committed shooter than the ones we've seen so far will be forthcoming and produce a truly horrible death toll. I don't see how there could be security other than maybe a detention center/jail type with sally ports that would work to keep out all possible people with weapons. Imagine taking in 2 or 3 thousand students a day under airport or jail criteria. Then the entrance staging area outside the secure perimeter would be an inviting and extremely vulnerable target. In an attack casualties will result. It seems to me that the danger posed by having trained armed personnel on staff is a risk worth taking. The fear that a student might disarm a teacher and use the weapon is in fact valid. Any LEO is told in basic training that a large percent of officers shot are shot with their own weapon. As to the suggestion to use the military to guard civilian schools, aren't they prohibited by law from doing domestic law enforcement? There are no easy answers and we might as well get ready to accept that this will continue and put people in place to minimize it.

Difficult training, paid by the candidate, resulting in a perishable credential. Obvious award: credential, substantial pay increase, hiring preference. Hidden award: a gradual change in teacher workforce to those willing to be part of the solution than the problem...

No requirement to engage shooter, and no liability if they do, encoded in law. Rigor of training and continuing ed/training will help preclude folks from gaming the system for more $$. There will always be opportunists, but most of the successful candidates will have the right mindset to protect and engage.

"To do exactly what?" To Stop some [bleep] from killing more kids is what. Apparently you think its better for the teacher to fling themselves in front of them to stop the bullets with their body. If I had a kid in school I would want every teacher armed. I would guess every one of them would give their life to protect their students. I would rather they live and sacrifice the bad guys life to protect their students.

Expecting society to change from the moral downward spiral it has been on over the past 50 years in time to stop the next tragedy is the wrong course.I agree we need to reverse the spiral but other measure need to be taken as we turn.

Most school shooters are using AR type rifles. A 9mm is no match for that. If shooters know that a teacher might have a concealed gun, guess who gets shot first..

Same argument could be made against police carrying handguns. It will just cause murderers to shoot them first. Why aren't we disarming our police forces based on this line of reasoning?