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I recently purchased a 30/30 F that belonged to a campfire member. I am in need of a staple and ring for it. Have located a supplier for an aftermarket staple but not the ring. Could someone supply me with some measurements from an original so I could make a ring. This is a latter 1917 model. Would like the rod diameter used to make the ring and inside diameter of the formed ring. Also is the ring welded together or left open. Thanks in advance.
Jim
If someone has an original staple and ring they would sell, that would be even better.

Inside diameter is .775" and thickness of the ring is .155", just measured the one on my 25-35.

Oh ya, left open, not welded.

Hi Jim, Her's what I got on mine , (from last year. ) Hello oldtimer303,
I just measured an 1903 made 303 Savage Saddle Ring Carbine saddle ring,100% sure it's all original.

OD = .925"

ID = .685"

Thickness of material used to make ring = .125".

All measuremants checked twice using good quality calipers. MF.

Thanks boys. What vintage is your 25/35 Mad Dog?

This is a late 1917 SRC also.

Thanks Rory, which set of measurements does this one have?

1911, 1158XX

Heck if I know, I haven't measured it yet.

If I get around to digging in the safe this weekend, I'll pull it out and measure it. When you get your staple in, let us know how it works. Some of us are in need of replacement staples also.

Did you per chance get an opportunity to measure the ring on your SRC? I have 2 staples on order so would like to round up material to build a ring.
Thanks

Sorry, been sicker than a dog and have not done a thing in 5 days.

Some time back (probably many years...time flies) we collected data on ring sizes on carbines over the full serial range of production. What I can remember (can't find the data) was that:

- there was a big difference in wire thickness
-that Winchester replacement rings were over sized
-the later production rings were thin
-rings were not welded.

I have two carbines made in 1917. The rings both measure in the area of .940"x.995"x ,.125" wire thickness. The ring is slightly oval with the joint being at the smallest diameter. Both rings are made the same.

Where did you get the studs and do they look like the originals?

If someone could make a run of studs and rings I'm sure we could sell a bunch if price was realistic.

PS...would a 16D nail work? .165"x 3.5"

..oh I've definitely got some bent nails that I would sell to the first "I'll take it"

looks like 8-penny is closer to 1/8" diameter

Rick :I have not got the staples yet nor have I even seen a photo of them, they are on order From Western Gun Parts in Edmonton Alberta. Thanks for the measurements and I will try to post some pictures of the staples when they arrive. Calhoun hope you feel better soon.

I don't think an 8D is long enough.

" ...they are on order From Western Gun Parts... "

Have they made more? I thought they were out of stock.

Sorry for the delay in answering Rick, yes they made more, got two in the mail a few days back and just installed one a few minutes ago. I had taken pictures when I got them and they are in my file but damned if I can load them into this thread. In fact I can't even find my picture file now.

"... just installed one..."

Sounds like it fit. Thanks.

Staples are sold out. There will be no more available.

I missed out again.