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Originally Posted by ltppowell
In his "listening session". THERE IS NO PLACE TO PUT NUTS. Why is this an elephant in the room?


The focus on mental health in the late 70's was to "mainstream" as many as they could. A "facility" was demeaning and cruel - or so they thought. What happened was that a high percentage of those turned out into society became the homeless crowd. Some were mostly harmless and others were dangerous.


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Originally Posted by Etoh
Usually starts when the dog stares at them. For every person that pharm. doesn't work for their are a couple of thousand it does work for. (since we are using work units)

Just to be technical psychotropics are usually chemicals that contain indole groups, cross the blood brain barrier, and screw with your dopamine and serotonin,

if you want to stay with that then pharm drugs are anti-psychotropic. (while psychotropic may mean psyche changing, psychologists don't get to do the nomenclature --- pharmacologists do)


Just to to be technical, one in "a couple of thousand", when you have millions "treated" leaves more than a few that ain't. I did the math. About one in ten million people commit these atrocities. You pays you money (or not} and you takes you chances. I get it. Nobody wants to pay for prisons and mental institutions. Don't bitch about the consequences.


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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Originally Posted by ltppowell
In his "listening session". THERE IS NO PLACE TO PUT NUTS. Why is this an elephant in the room?


The focus on mental health in the late 70's was to "mainstream" as many as they could. A "facility" was demeaning and cruel - or so they thought. What happened was that a high percentage of those turned out into society became the homeless crowd. Some were mostly harmless and others were dangerous.



Yeah...I know. We killed six of them in a couple month period, in a city of 60K. It was the eightie's actually.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
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For every 1 person hospitalized their are 100 that are able to maintain employment, and assume relative normal daily lives.



Until they don't.

And then since they were "mainstream" they need to be hammered just like anyone else.. no mental out, do the crime, do the time, pay the ultimate price....


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Originally Posted by Toddly
Feds could legalize pot and use the tax $ to fund nut houses.


That revenue wouldn't begin to cover the cost - surely you jest. the eight states that have legalized rec. pot are finding out the monster they have created. Tax revenue to CO FPY16 was 1.12% of total state revenue. High school kids use pot 74% more than the national average. Traffic crashes/fatals are up, ER visits up, poison control calls up, school problems up, black market WAY up and they are shipping to other states. Be careful what you wish for.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Etoh
Usually starts when the dog stares at them. For every person that pharm. doesn't work for their are a couple of thousand it does work for. (since we are using work units)

Just to be technical psychotropics are usually chemicals that contain indole groups, cross the blood brain barrier, and screw with your dopamine and serotonin,

if you want to stay with that then pharm drugs are anti-psychotropic. (while psychotropic may mean psyche changing, psychologists don't get to do the nomenclature --- pharmacologists do)


Just to to be technical, one in "a couple of thousand", when you have millions "treated" leaves more than a few that ain't. I did the math. About one in ten million people commit these atrocities. You pays you money (or not} and you takes you chances. I get it. Nobody wants to pay for prisons and mental institutions. Don't bitch about the consequences.


lol. in all seriousness we've got humans running loose down here on the Urth. some work and pay taxes and some don't? is that a fair assessment?

i like the idea or concept of an organized society. but, some folks don't want to play fair, or are they mentally deranged in some kind, type or sort of way?

and whose fault is it, if humans can't fit into the mainstream? and how to respond?

increased taxes just can't fix everything, but at least it's an effort, right?


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Etoh
Usually starts when the dog stares at them. For every person that pharm. doesn't work for their are a couple of thousand it does work for. (since we are using work units)

Just to be technical psychotropics are usually chemicals that contain indole groups, cross the blood brain barrier, and screw with your dopamine and serotonin,

if you want to stay with that then pharm drugs are anti-psychotropic. (while psychotropic may mean psyche changing, psychologists don't get to do the nomenclature --- pharmacologists do)


Just to to be technical, one in "a couple of thousand", when you have millions "treated" leaves more than a few that ain't. I did the math. About one in ten million people commit these atrocities. You pays you money (or not} and you takes you chances. I get it. Nobody wants to pay for prisons and mental institutions. Don't bitch about the consequences.



And simple math tells one if we QUIT growing, we'd have less incidents..... I'm tired of this nation expanding... we should reign it all back in, protect our own and quit over breeding.... and they should issue a license to actively breed...


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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In his "listening session". THERE IS NO PLACE TO PUT NUTS. Why is this an elephant in the room?


The focus on mental health in the late 70's was to "mainstream" as many as they could. A "facility" was demeaning and cruel - or so they thought. What happened was that a high percentage of those turned out into society became the homeless crowd. Some were mostly harmless and others were dangerous.



Yeah...I know. We killed six of them in a couple month period, in a city of 60K. It was the eightie's actually.


Yes we had that too in Mpls.. Plus Carter's Mariel Boat Lift put wildly crazy Cubans into the metro cities as Castro emptied out his prisons. The Catholic Churches couldn't begin to control them.
They became srteet thugs and those bastards loved anything with a sharp blade! We are a stupid azz country sometime!


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Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Etoh
Usually starts when the dog stares at them. For every person that pharm. doesn't work for their are a couple of thousand it does work for. (since we are using work units)

Just to be technical psychotropics are usually chemicals that contain indole groups, cross the blood brain barrier, and screw with your dopamine and serotonin,

if you want to stay with that then pharm drugs are anti-psychotropic. (while psychotropic may mean psyche changing, psychologists don't get to do the nomenclature --- pharmacologists do)


Just to to be technical, one in "a couple of thousand", when you have millions "treated" leaves more than a few that ain't. I did the math. About one in ten million people commit these atrocities. You pays you money (or not} and you takes you chances. I get it. Nobody wants to pay for prisons and mental institutions. Don't bitch about the consequences.



And simple math tells one if we QUIT growing, we'd have less incidents..... I'm tired of this nation expanding... we should reign it all back in, protect our own and quit over breeding.... and they should issue a license to actively breed...


Yes we could adapt the Chinese and/or the Nork model I suppose. But consider that the white populations of Europe and the USA cannot keep up with immigrant birth rates. Sounds a bit racist but within a generation or so, whites will be a minority. But hey, most of us will be dead by that time.


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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Originally Posted by Toddly
Feds could legalize pot and use the tax $ to fund nut houses.


That revenue wouldn't begin to cover the cost - surely you jest. the eight states that have legalized rec. pot are finding out the monster they have created. Tax revenue to CO FPY16 was 1.12% of total state revenue. High school kids use pot 74% more than the national average. Traffic crashes/fatals are up, ER visits up, poison control calls up, school problems up, black market WAY up and they are shipping to other states. Be careful what you wish for.


But we can make rope and cure cancer with it. lol

Maybe he's on to something though. Prisons and mental institutions should start farming weed instead of peas. Let the inmates keep all they want. Sell the rest to their family and friends when they visit.


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We're screaming for intelligent life, any thoughts?


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If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.

This is inflation
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Ok this thread is leaning to the ridiculous...........I'm out.

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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Etoh
Usually starts when the dog stares at them. For every person that pharm. doesn't work for their are a couple of thousand it does work for. (since we are using work units)

Just to be technical psychotropics are usually chemicals that contain indole groups, cross the blood brain barrier, and screw with your dopamine and serotonin,

if you want to stay with that then pharm drugs are anti-psychotropic. (while psychotropic may mean psyche changing, psychologists don't get to do the nomenclature --- pharmacologists do)


Just to to be technical, one in "a couple of thousand", when you have millions "treated" leaves more than a few that ain't. I did the math. About one in ten million people commit these atrocities. You pays you money (or not} and you takes you chances. I get it. Nobody wants to pay for prisons and mental institutions. Don't bitch about the consequences.



And simple math tells one if we QUIT growing, we'd have less incidents..... I'm tired of this nation expanding... we should reign it all back in, protect our own and quit over breeding.... and they should issue a license to actively breed...


Yes we could adapt the Chinese and/or the Nork model I suppose. But consider that the white populations of Europe and the USA cannot keep up with immigrant birth rates. Sounds a bit racist but within a generation or so, whites will be a minority. But hey, most of us will be dead by that time.


I wouldn't worry too much about the strongest surviving.


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I'm not calling you out Ace, but I dig your perspective on subjects like this. Big plus that you're a neighbor.


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If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.

This is inflation
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Originally Posted by Gus
we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone.



Maybe this will help you out. Just use penitentiary and sanitarium interchangeably:



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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Gus
we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone.



BS.

They took funding away from mental health facilities in lieu of combating the problem with drugs.

Only drugs didn't, and don't work.

So now we need facilities that aren't there, and the funding isn't there because it's all going to entitlements that keep politicians in office term after term.


Nailed it


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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by Gus
we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone.



Maybe this will help you out. Just use penitentiary and sanitarium interchangeably:



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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Gus
we have tried locking the "crazies" away from society until the system was going bankrupt. trust me, a bankrupt system is not a good thing, not for anyone.



BS.

They took funding away from mental health facilities in lieu of combating the problem with drugs.

Only drugs didn't, and don't work.

So now we need facilities that aren't there, and the funding isn't there because it's all going to DIMOCRAPS that keep politicians in office term after term.
FIXT.


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The real 800 pound gorilla in the room:

What we really need is to get back to the values that allowed us to build our great country in the first place, and recognizing what these values were. What they absolutely WERE NOT, were anti-religious, pseudo-science/neo-psychology/socialist-welfare worshipping liberalism. And this is coming from a generally non-religious guy with a degree in science.

There was a time not too long ago in our society where firearms were much more available to our youth, but this stuff just didn't happen. Guess what's changed?

We can talk all we want about these programs and those programs to "fix" the problem. But I'm afraid all were doing is trying to put a band-aid over a hemorrhage.

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Originally Posted by Toddly
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Toddly
Feds could legalize pot and use the tax $ to fund nut houses.


Medical or recreational ?

I havnt seen anything good come from legalization of recreational marijuana.


IMO, the push to de-stigmatize and legalize marijuana is simply a symptom the liberal cesspool around which our society is swirling.

I present Exhibit A: jeffo (sorry jeffo, not meant to be a personal attack, but just an observation).

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