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Maybe the sanctions have finally taken a real toll on the norks and gerbil boy is getting real nervous about being ousted.
I think it's smoke and mirrors. Try and buy time, make promises of giving up his nukes in exchange for lifting sanctions. Same act that's been played out before by the norks. Hopefully Trump recognizes this and doesn't get fooled.

Yeah, I pray the likes of a Trump doesn't get taken by a 3rd world insular leader.

Gerbil is likely getting advise from Iran...

I trust fatboy as far as I can throw Texas....

I hope I live long enough to know he is a grease spot on a road map....

Ronald Reagan said trust, but verify.

But I don't trust that little round ball of $hit.

LOL!
You're nuttier than trail mix.

I hope I'm wrong, but I thinks it's just a ploy by NK to separate SK from the US. NK knows Trump is never going to accept a deal to give up sanctions without being able to verify NK is actually giving up its nukes. The idea is to convince SK that without the US there could be peace and prosperity for all or Korea. Once the US is gone then NK can at least bully SK around, if not invade it.

Two things......first, I believe that it would be a good thing to figure out some way to reduce the Nork threat, and perhaps improve the living conditions of their citizens to the point that someday they could overthrow their dictators. But, if anyone thinks that the North Koreans are going to give up their nukes, missiles, and quit being a militarized nation, I'm afraid they're nuts. I can't see any scenario in which that could happen.

Secondly, we should hold all the cards in any negotiation with them, and the terms of which should be our terms, not theirs. Somewhat strangely, Trump has gone from calling Gerbil Boy names, to wanting to sit down and talk. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, but we need to be very cautious, and Trump had better have his ducks all in a row. I do not trust the Norks.

I think its buying time, playing game with Trump. Its a game long played by Kim's family

The only thing that the weasel cares about is holding on power in NK. His family has created a whole culture on resisting the evil Americans. So a lot of the things we do to limit the NK regime or weaken them really just plays in Kim's favor. We put sanctions in place, they freeze and starve, Kim says it the US fault and after 70 years of hearing its the US fault the people mostly believe it. None of this effects Kim personally as if there is any comfort luxury in the whole country its his.

The one chink in Kim's plan is that information is getting harder to control, so more of it gets snuck in. N Koreans seeing the west in videos, movies etc is a real danger to Kim and I think that this has been increasing, partly because of the media and partly because of the joint North-South ventures expose more NK's. , Kim's response has been to jack up the tensions and make the US bogeyman seem scarier and only his leadership can save NK from the American threat.

This is just a yet another ploy to shore up his internal position.

Likely not true. While he keeps his family life a secret. there are rumors of kids and possibly even multiple wives. Nobody knows for sure, though. If he lives long enough for kids to grow up, I'm betting that a favorite son will appear.

I totally agree. This day is coming. It's just a matter of time. Something like this would be too good of deal to pass up.

In fact, when he leaves I believe he will hand over the North to South Korea.

I agree. No amount of money is going to buy him off, as he already has all the money he needs. It's about power, and he craves it.

No Gus, we tossed in the towel in every other admin by paying the criminals off. This time we have a leader who wrote the book on deals. I'll let the President handle this and believe he will do well for us. That has been his intent and results with most everything else the lying libs have not gotten in the way of.

Without them and a huge army they could put more money in agriculture and feed their people.

In the past, NK had such a large army because so many peasants enlisted to eat. They couldn't get enough food at home but the army fed them well. Not so now. I read recently that the army gives the soldiers short term leaves so they could go scrounge for their own food.

we have bought them off in the past, and that was a disgrace. but, the us refused to negotiate with them as the norks had requested, one on one.

trump has agreed to their demands. they're still a piss-ant nation.

we'll see how it all turns out.

Look, no American president since Kennedy at least has even wanted to solve the Korean mess. Why? Because they are all career politicians getting rich from lobbyists in the military industrial complex. We don’t even have a formal peace treaty with North Korea. None of them have ever wanted to solve the problem because the military industrial complex makes too much money from tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

Trump is the first president who is actually trying to solve the problem FOR GOOD. It may not work, but so what? Nothing else has either and trying the same old thing over and over is stupid. It is in things like this that really demonstrate the value of having a president who is not a career politician and who does not need anyone’s money.

Buying time, as usual, just like they've done for decades.

Trying the same thing over and over became impossible when they got the bomb. The traitor obama allowed that.

It depends on what the agreement to talk entails. If the agreement to talk mandates complete and verifiable nuclear disarmament and destruction of all said facilities, then agreeing to talk from that contextual basis is the opposite of weakness. Mandate all action up front, require that it happen and then talk.