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I have a question for all those concerned by the way.

If the use of variable magnification is indicative of less reliability, wouldn't the use of a BDC reticle and not twisting turrets be inherently more reliable?

Super Snipers die the same as any other scope given enough use.

This 6X died around the 4K mark. SWFA is going to warranty it of course.



Dave

Pretty much how I use my SS anyway, and one or two others, at the range anyway. In the field, I use the old standby method of most fat, lazy, weak, Eastern hunters of sighting in for 200 yards and holding on hair from 0-300. Most of the deer I shoot, or don't, are close enough to hear the clicks and see the movement.

I'm no scope designer, but the reticle cell spun and this is independent of turret twisting. Twisting the turrets moves the erector tube, but a rotating reticle indicates that the means to fix the reticle cell failed. Threaded and staked? Or glued in place?

I'm just guessing, and hopefully someone like JB can comment. On the Leupo 6x scopes, he has mentioned that the rear scope ring placed over the reticle cell can cause failures.

As mentioned elsewhere, I'm interested if your ambient had anything to do with the failure, on top of the round count. If glued, did the round count compromise the fixation method? Add that cold temperature and then you start spinning.

Anyway, good job busting that scope. Only way that we can learn is to break stuff and find the cause.

I'd shoot a message to Chris Farris. He might have some comments.

J

Yeah that's fine but what is being gained by using a scope that weighs 10 fugking pounds unless you're dialing past the 5 and doping wind on game animals that are so distant you need to precisely dope wind?

Next, I suppose the bastards will be telling me to lift weights.

I've also wondered if shooting suppressed causes premature failure. I've read before that cans/brakes can cause a push/pull that is not unlike an air rifle. Don't know if that's valid or not.

Travis

The odd NF fails too, but it’s a lot more rare to find a broken NF or SWFA than most other brands.

Good point. Brakes can be a problem, but I didn't know that a suppressor would do the same.

J

It's even more rare to find a 6X42 Leupold with a LR reticle that has failed. Which is what I'm driving at.



Travis

I've also wondered if shooting suppressed causes premature failure. I've read before that cans/brakes can cause a push/pull that is not unlike an air rifle. Don't know if that's valid or not.



Travis

It's even more rare to find a 6X42 Leupold with a LR reticle that has failed. Which is what I'm driving at.



Travis

I thought Leupold was doing some sort of Custom Ballistically Matched Reticle thing now? Couldn't you just get it in a MOA or MIL scale?

I’ve got one in my basement right now. I have personally had multiple Leups fail on me, and have only read about two SWFA fixed scopes that have failed out of hundreds that have been sold to members of the Campfire. I’ve got a pile of SS’s that I’ve dialed thousands of shot corrections into, in all weather conditions, and haven’t yet experienced a failure. Obviously some do fail, but my experience has been that the failure rate is much closer to that of NF than Leupold.