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Another thing that I think that makes this a strategic decision is that the libs are gaining more and more of the popular vote. And, they are trying to infiltrate red states anywhere they can. For now, the biggest advantage we have is the fact that, even though they control more population centers, we control more states. An article 5 convention of the states is one of the only ways for us the leverage that unique advantage. There is near zero chance the libs could get anything they want needing to get a super majority of the state legislatures. But there is a chance we could get some things we want that would be essentially impossible given the situation in DC. With the libs spreading like locusts around the country, I honestly don't know how long we could exploit this unique advantage that we have.


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Originally Posted by Peddler
Another thing that I think that makes this a strategic decision is that the libs are gaining more and more of the popular vote. And, they are trying to infiltrate red states anywhere they can. For now, the biggest advantage we have is the fact that, even though they control more population centers, we control more states. An article 5 convention of the states is one of the only ways for us the leverage that unique advantage. There is near zero chance the libs could get anything they want needing to get a super majority of the state legislatures. But there is a chance we could get some things we want that would be essentially impossible given the situation in DC. With the libs spreading like locusts around the country, I honestly don't know how long we could exploit this unique advantage that we have.


Spot on and thanks, Peddler.

We are only afforded this small window of oppurtunity where previous blue states have gone for Trump, thus giving patriots an oppurtunity for a convention of states to succeed in shoring up our constitution.

Most here are too comfortable to risk that and, unfortunately, are too stupid to see this is our last legal, peaceful recourse, which is why the conservative brainiacs are pushing it.

Someone on another thread talked about the fact that if the Dims run a Castro bro from San Antonio the state of Texas would go blue. Unfortunately they didnt then proceed to connect the dots. The truth is the entire country would be screwed, blued and tatooed, and we would never live to see another onservative as POTUS.

Why? There are enough electorial votes in California and Texas to rule the country. It wouldnt matter wth anyone elses vote does or how their state goes.

We are but a few mexican dimocrap votes away from giving the US away. We are the modern day Pompei before the volcano changed things forever in the blink of an eye.

We talk about how tough we are and how the bastids will pay if they come to take our guns away and all the while we are too gutless to take a chance and vote for a change.

Let me tell you this, buds. They arent worried about how the hell tough you think you are. All they want is the electorial votes from Texas.

They have the guys who will, whether you are dead or alive, take your guns from you. Hitler did too.

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Jaguar,

you dirty handed phlebotomist!

why is Trump pushing all the Puerto Ricans to Florida? So they can vote for President? If he had a lick of sense he would be rebuilding PR, so they would stay home and not be able to vote. How many voting Puerto Ricans would it take to flip Florida? How many electoral votes there?

Pure genius. Bidness Genius. Ya know, the 3-D chess kind.

Maybe he's too busy golfing.

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Ha. As a typical, gutless, pos dimocrap you would rather slander someone with lying, to try to further your illegitimate agenda than be proven such by putting your money where your cheap bull [bleep] mouth is rather than back it up as a man.

Do you not realize what a fool you are proving yourself to be to others on the Fire.

Ha. Bet me $5000 as to whether or not i am a fleabottomist or Dr.

I didnt think so. Now back your gutless, lying (which you made yourself to be) ass back unter the rock you lieberals crawl out from.
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PS. Let me know if you want to put your $ where your mouth is and who you want to hold our money.


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Thanks for reminding us again why we need a convention of states, btw.

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I see nothing's changed here. How you been Jag?


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Doing good, Mog. Nice to see you post again and i hope you stick around and post more often.

Hope you and yours are doing well. Thanks for the shout.

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Originally Posted by g5m
With a CC you can kiss the Bill of Rights goodbye.


Yea, really don't want New York, New Jersey, Maryland, well hell, any of the northeast, or California there.

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Not my place I know, but there is one thing you need to keep in mind when opening such a subject..."politicians are not your friend and will shaft you whenever it suits them".

That is my experience.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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The federal government constantly strives to usurp more power for itself. It's prime function is to grow and control our citizens from cradle to grave and it's doing a splendid job of it. Any constitutional republic's only hope of surviving is for it's citizenry to keep informed and engaged in it's governance. Socialism's converts strive to make the populace dependent on government for their survival.

Everyone has skin in the game whether we know it or not. People are inherently selfish and cliquish. They tend to not be concerned about anyone else's freedom or plight. They will fight to protect their own nest at the expense of everyone else's. The urban mobs that do not shoot tend to believe that it is good to take everyone else's right to own a firearm away because it doesn't affect them personally. Slowly we are being controlled by the large urban areas as more and more people are drawn to social programs that devour freedom and enslave the populace. Education is being subverted to the point that even home school can be corrupted.

I have always tried to get people I am involved with to become involved in oversight of their elected officials. Truth is too many are happy to let things rock along as they are and where has that got us. Politics is a money game and it is becoming more and more financially dependent. The media plays a huge roll in determining who gets elected. Witness the Roy Moore election.

We can't fix all the ills we have contracted but we can have an article five convention and put some of the power back to the states and make the federal judicial subject to term limits. We suffer greatly by legislators and judges that serve beyond their capabilities to make sound judgements. Mark Levin makes the argument for the convention and he was the first to make the case. As a constitutional scholar he makes a good argument for it.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART




Not my place I know, but there is one thing you need to keep in mind when opening such a subject..."politicians are not your friend and will shaft you whenever it suits them".

That is my experience.


Which is why we need to take power from them and Uh, federal judges who by edict make law also.

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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by websterparish47
Originally Posted by g5m
With a CC you can kiss the Bill of Rights goodbye.


Yea, really don't want New York, New Jersey, Maryland, well hell, any of the northeast, or California there.


Do you guys live in fear or listen to those pushing this? They are not accepting that there is a risk to the 2A if it is done properly. Dont you think if it would jeapordize the 2A the progressives and Hillary, Pelosi and Schumer would be all for it? You think 3/4 of the states would ratify taking the 2ND away?


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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by g5m
With a CC you can kiss the Bill of Rights goodbye.

Not necessarily. Every proposed amendment that comes out of it must be ratified by 34 states. This is by states, not by population. Say there's one to abolish the 2d Amendment. It needs to be ratified by 34 states and it's highly unlikely that you could get anywhere near that many. Idaho's pure red vote carries the same weight as Calif's pure blue vote and there are a lot of small red states.

Exactly. This is what so many either ignore or are unaware of. A CC does NOT have to include legislators, either, and in fact it should not. Each state would choose and send a delegation and those people would be accountable to their states. Without a doubt we have the best Constitution the world has ever seen, but it has been compromised by wicked courts. This would be an opportunity to shore it up and add in those things we now find necessary. Ratification by 34 states insures it would not be blue state dominated but red state dominated, and they number of red states largely exceeds blue states which are more populous. That gives conservatives a far better chance than it would hoping to get these changes made through legislation, which in many cases is impossible.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Jaguar,

you dirty handed phlebotomist!

why is Trump pushing all the Puerto Ricans to Florida? So they can vote for President? If he had a lick of sense he would be rebuilding PR, so they would stay home and not be able to vote. How many voting Puerto Ricans would it take to flip Florida? How many electoral votes there?

Pure genius. Bidness Genius. Ya know, the 3-D chess kind.

Maybe he's too busy golfing.

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Originally Posted by sactoller
It is a convention of the states not a constitutional convention...There is a big difference.

Article V




Yep. Objective thinking and speaking English goes a long ways in understanding the purpose and goals.




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All I really need to know is that the who's who of Liberal tyrants don't want an Article V convention- there's several reasons why.

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If all were as smart as you, we wouldnt be having this discussion. You mean you dont think we should turn the US House of Reps over to the Jellos of the US and give up your guns just because Trump messed up?

Well, what a novel idea. Most, unfortunately, feel we should drop trou and bend over the barrel for Paddlers and LRoys buds.


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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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