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Has any one noticed on "Soldier Systems Daily" they stated after testing that USSOCOM has adopted the 6.5CM. Talking about not building new rifles for the 6.5 but altering existing 7.62's. Watch the 6.5 soar now. Superior accuracy at long range due to much more manageable recoil in full auto article stated.
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Be interesting to see what bullet they use, and if once fired LC brass would be made available to the public..
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I thought Trump was gonna stop gays in the military? He did when he banned the .30-06.
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I thought Trump was gonna stop gays in the military? 
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"Last Spring, USSOCOM undertook a study of 6.5 family cartridges to determine a path forward for Precision Intermediate Caliber Ammunition. Over the last year, USASOC, the primary driver of this initiative, narrowed it down to 260 Remington and 6.5 Creemoor. Testing indicated that the two calibers performed very closely.
![[Linked Image]](http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/img_1425.jpg)
Last month, the command conducted a reliability test, using two incumbent weapons, currently in US service; the FN SCAR Heavy and KAC M110. Two weapons of each type were used, one was in 260 Remington and the other in 6.5 CM. What they found is that both weapons performed just as well and were just as reliable in either caliber.
As both cartridges were similarly accurate and reliable, the determining factor for selection of 6.5 CM would end up being trade space. The prevailing attitude is that there was more room with the 6.5 CM to further develop projectiles and loads.
I don’t expect a major announcement, or any fanfare with this decision. Instead, you’ll begin to see small movements toward configuring weapons to utilize this round.
At the USASOC Sniper Competition, there were several weapons in 6.5 CM. Yesterday, we gave a little tease on Instagram of a Knight’s Armament Co M110 in 6.5 CM.
![[Linked Image]](http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/98AD22B9-E4C0-4BF0-B28D-D87C0ED9375B-440x440.jpeg)
Today, I fired a FN Mk20 in 6.5 CM which was configured as a demonstrator for new features, such as a non-reciprocating charging handle and AR-style stock. Shooting a SCAR Heavy is like taming a beast, but with 6.5 CM, the recoil impulse was negligible.
![[Linked Image]](http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/04F2F378-0542-4C9B-8033-19C9D050074F-440x335.jpeg)
Briefings last year indicated that SOCOM was interested in looking at an intermediate cartridge family gas gun and light machine gun. However, the lay Of the land is a little different now. I do not expect a full and open competition for a new car being in 6.5 CM. Rather, I expect them to modify the 7.62 rifles they already own. Additionally, there has been no recent talk of looking at a light machine gun in that caliber."
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They still choose Leupolds too......
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I thought Trump was gonna stop gays in the military? They did not choose the .270  Pretty impressive, meaningful, results in the graphic Brad posted.
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They still choose Leupolds too...... Mmm. No. You’re seeing one picture of a representative scope. There are Leupolds, Nightforce, S&B, and Vortex Razors GII issued to various organizations. . Has any one noticed on "Soldier Systems Daily" they stated after testing that USSOCOM has adopted the 6.5CM. Talking about not building new rifles for the 6.5 but altering existing 7.62's. Watch the 6.5 soar now. Superior accuracy at long range due to much more manageable recoil in full auto article stated. This was decided quite a while ago, and the 6.5 Creedmoor has been the highest selling factory round for a couple of years now- only the Campfire thinks it’s “new”.
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"Last Spring, USSOCOM undertook a study of 6.5 family cartridges to determine a path forward for Precision Intermediate Caliber Ammunition. Over the last year, USASOC, the primary driver of this initiative, narrowed it down to 260 Remington and 6.5 Creemoor. Testing indicated that the two calibers performed very closely.
Last month, the command conducted a reliability test, using two incumbent weapons, currently in US service; the FN SCAR Heavy and KAC M110. Two weapons of each type were used, one was in 260 Remington and the other in 6.5 CM. What they found is that both weapons performed just as well and were just as reliable in either caliber.
As both cartridges were similarly accurate and reliable, the determining factor for selection of 6.5 CM would end up being trade space. The prevailing attitude is that there was more room with the 6.5 CM to further develop projectiles and loads.
I don’t expect a major announcement, or any fanfare with this decision. Instead, you’ll begin to see small movements toward configuring weapons to utilize this round.
At the USASOC Sniper Competition, there were several weapons in 6.5 CM. Yesterday, we gave a little tease on Instagram of a Knight’s Armament Co M110 in 6.5 CM.
Today, I fired a FN Mk20 in 6.5 CM which was configured as a demonstrator for new features, such as a non-reciprocating charging handle and AR-style stock. Shooting a SCAR Heavy is like taming a beast, but with 6.5 CM, the recoil impulse was negligible.
Briefings last year indicated that SOCOM was interested in looking at an intermediate cartridge family gas gun and light machine gun. However, the lay Of the land is a little different now. I do not expect a full and open competition for a new car being in 6.5 CM. Rather, I expect them to modify the 7.62 rifles they already own. Additionally, there has been no recent talk of looking at a light machine gun in that caliber." Interesting read, and if your military goes with it then ours will surely follow...and London to a brick the military eggheads will manage to cripple the whole thing.
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I thought Trump was gonna stop gays in the military? They did not choose the .270 Pretty impressive, meaningful, results in the graphic Brad posted. If they'd picked the 270 back in 1925, they'd still be using it.
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So our new round will be slightly less that the Sweede round designed in the 1890s, but a little better than the Jap round found to be obsolete in the 1930's.I
But with better bullets.
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That noise you hear is all the "never 'Moor" peoples' heads exploding. Yep.
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They still choose Leupolds too...... Mmm. No. You’re seeing one picture of a representative scope. There are Leupolds, Nightforce, S&B, and Vortex Razors GII issued to various organizations. . Has any one noticed on "Soldier Systems Daily" they stated after testing that USSOCOM has adopted the 6.5CM. Talking about not building new rifles for the 6.5 but altering existing 7.62's. Watch the 6.5 soar now. Superior accuracy at long range due to much more manageable recoil in full auto article stated. This was decided quite a while ago, and the 6.5 Creedmoor has been the highest selling factory round for a couple of years now- only the Campfire thinks it’s “new”. Creedmoor has been around, but the kreedmire is fairly new......
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They're using vortex?
Any swfa's floating around in combat situations?
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What bullet have they settled on?
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They're using vortex?
Any swfa's floating around in combat situations?
Yes. The 1-6x and 3-9x SWFA’s are used extensively by some.
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