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Late to the party, anyone mention the .270 Ren, a .22 blown out to a .270.

No, you're the very first, and our GRAND PRIZE WINNER!!!!!

gnoahhh, that will work but it needs a notary and must be recorded at the county seat there in Annappleolus.

And I am close to a major feat with this project. All y'all keep your fingers crossed please.

Or maybe I'm just drunk.

DD

I was always a fan of Little Feat music. Never heard of Major Feat. Fingers crossed (my Mom's are too- she thinks you're hot).

His son is General Disaster. He also has a brother in the Air Force, Master Chief Phuque Up.

Ed

OK, keep it up and I'll introduce you clowns to Corporal Punishment.

Suitably chastened and sitting in the corner now. Sir.

And...back to my coloring book now.



Ed

Said Major Considerations to Private Reasons "rebels like you have no right to enlist or exist",
as Corporal Punishment leered approval and gave his fierce mustache a fiercer twist.

There just may be a Colonel of truth in that.

We'll have to post a General Inquiry in hopes of Major Victory in the never ending struggle against a General Population fighting back against the threats of Corporal Punishment.

Ed

Major Probing is coming to see you wankers.

"Well, until Colonel Digital Blimp here finishes developing his amazing little bundook you're going to have to continue using your Lance, Corporal."

OHHH, could that be General Discord heading this way?

OK, False alarm, Looks more like Gunny Sack. He's coming back from calling General Quarters.

Think I'll go see what new colors are in my box of crayons now...

Ed

Well, the saga continues with Round 4.

Short time back someone suggested a trial with Lil' Gun, and another said to try some Clays. I wandered down that path today with some curious results. Break down of the data follows:

Temp; mid 70's, wind light and variable. Double bag rest @ 20 yards

5 fouler rounds, Norma TAC: Avg 1057, Es 48, Sd 17; Group of .35"

All .22 GTC groups were 3 rounds:

Dupont Hi-Skor 800X .9 grains, WW SPP Avg 735, Es 26, Sd 14; Group of .33" Load density approximately 70%

WW540 .9 grains, WW SPP, Avg 682, Es 78, Sd 39; Group of .51" Load density approx. 50%

Blue Dot .9 grains, WW SPP, Avg 584, Es 30; Sd 16; Group of .42" Load density approx 70%

5 rounds of Norma TAC afterwards, Avg 1064, ES 37, Sd, 14; Group of .218"




No leading occurred. It was curious that with each group the velocity increased with each round for a given charge. With minor deviation, this occurred with the Norma TAC as well. With the .22 GTC the increase was generally about half of the extreme spread for each load.

While the average velocities for the three loads was low, the groups were reasonably consistent with previous trials and there is ample room for more powder. I will give the 800X and Blue Dot another spin, looking up to something in the 1 - 1.2 grain range if possible. Maybe even the 540 will benefit from a larger charge, but I won't hold my breath on that one.

With all that said, despite this adventure being detail oriented I am satisfied with progress to this point. Things to do? Crimping tool/die, maybe a slightly harder bullet alloy is in order. Stay tuned on all that.

Is it practical? Yes indeed. I suspect most of you would be pleasantly surprised at how easy the load process is, and though not yet finalized, the function is good, accuracy OK and bound to get better.

DD

Dan,
That is great!

I'm expecting at any time for someone to ask you to neck it down to .17 caliber...

It won't be me, but you know how looneys are.

Ed

Funny you mention that Ed, doing it with the .22 WMR or .17 HMR would be a fair bit less complicated on a dozen or so levels. Rim/case diameter is larger, bullets are not heeled....simple matter of making CF cases, modifying the bolt and a set of dies. Shazaam!

And...you could load it down to .22lr levels for economy and for subsonic/suppressed needs.

I still want your .22lr version.

Ed

Deeper I get into this the more potential I see, and yes, one could fiddle with the WMR/HMR path until Rome burned again.

For what it may be worth, I have a backyard range which is legal under the statutory requirements here in Floriduh and am nested in a residential neighborhood. Many of my neighbors shoot from time to time, some even to the point of being a bit obnoxious and perhaps somewhat hazardous as the very few I can examine do not have berms, backstops or much of anything else. Got one of them to "shut up" one day when he was being particularly bothersome with what I think was a .22 WMR....by shooting a hole in the dirt with a .30-30. Not to belabor any of that in great detail, I am not a bother to the neighborhood. I restrict my shooting to subsonic velocities and use either a suppressor or baffle box. They are clueless that I shoot as much as I do, or in some cases, at all.

The backstop......


The deflector, AR400 and sand in the backside...


The 50 yard line...


It works for .22's, .38 Spcl S&W, .44 Mag etc. Users get the impression that the noise is louder than it should be until I do the shooting and let them stand back 15-20'. It's quiet, does a bit of a "wonk" with the .44 but is otherwise neighborly. Any of you wankers needin' some firewood, get in touch.

This works too....


Last loads I shot, the loudest sound was the "clack" of the hammer and "tink" of the backstop. And my occasional "I'll be danged!"

Lest it be overlooked, the 20 yard line..........



Stumps were recently replaced with concrete blocks and otherwise adjusted a bit. The bench has a third slab on the left as well.

That's cool!

What are the dimensions on your baffle box? Is there any type of insulation inside the box?

I saw a pic of one long ago, I think it was Mike Venturino's, built from 55gal drums.

I like yours!

Ed