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We've talked about how they'd falsified their diesel emission testing. This report says that there are 300k cars, both new and buybacks, sitting in lots until the EPA decides what to do with them. They'll never be sold in the US. Whether you agree with the testing or not, at this time it's the law and VW is going to bite it big time. VW DIESELS![[Linked Image]](http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/auto/2018/03/30/nearly-300000-vw-diesels-are-sitting-in-lots-across-u-s/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-2/inline_spotlight_ima/image.img.jpg/612/344/1522419162340.jpg)
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Other countries are standing in line begging for those cars.
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I'll bet Cuba would take a boat load to replace those 57 chevy's
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I'll bet Cuba would take a boat load to replace those 57 chevy's May be we could work out a trade.
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I'll bet Cuba would take a boat load to replace those 57 chevy's May be we could work out a trade. No kidding. I'll take a 57 Chevy over any of those crappers.
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We've talked about how they'd falsified their diesel emission testing. This report says that there are 300k cars, both new and buybacks, sitting in lots until the EPA decides what to do with them. They'll never be sold in the US. Whether you agree with the testing or not, at this time it's the law and VW is going to bite it big time. VW DIESELSThey are selling them to dealers, who do the emissions work and then they gt a 160,000 mile emissions and turbo warranty from VW. There's a huge lot of these in Colorado Springs
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Mexico... They don't need no stinkin' emissions tests! 
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Back in '04 there was a class action suit against VW diesels. There was an emission part,I believe US market only,that failed.It was quite a mess.The part was failing just out of warrenty,3 years 36k miles.The MAJOR issues were....emission parts have to be warranted for 100k miles to be sold in the US.....VW fail #1.But the biggest fail,no joke was,there were NO replacement parts.Not here,not the fatherland,not nowhere!!
The whole debacle got swept under the proverbial rug.Owners of said turbo diesels got effed,no lube.
So,when they got caught dinking around with emissions the second time.....just say in.
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We've talked about how they'd falsified their diesel emission testing. This report says that there are 300k cars, both new and buybacks, sitting in lots until the EPA decides what to do with them. They'll never be sold in the US. Whether you agree with the testing or not, at this time it's the law and VW is going to bite it big time. VW DIESELSServes them right...they committed fraud. Regardless of how someone feels on the air quality thing... They clearly knew the law. No one forced them to make those diesel vehicles; they had lots of gas cars that would have been just fine. They wanted an edge in the marketplace, and they got that edge through fraud; not by innovation. Someone should have gone to jail... But in America we don't jail Fortune 500 executives; they're above the law. So we just extract some fine, for which they basically have their investors pay...Boy we really showed them!!! Pisses me off to no end the BS we let corporations get away with. As a policy the DOJ stopped seeking criminal charges against corporate execs in the opening days of the Obama Administration and that policy continues to this day. We have had corporate execs caught in fraud of all sorts, money laundering for Mexican cartels, arbitrarily approving medications (outside the FDA) for pediatrics that ended up killing kids...this and a LOT more...no prosecutions; only fines. I mean, we can't have politicians putting their corporate masters in jail.
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Was lookin for one a them VWs, thought I could get one on the cheap cause I ain't in CA.
Don't look like that's gonna happen.
Wouldn't be no fun drivin it anyway, knowin I wasn't breakin the "law".
Good news is, mosta the other companies was caught doin it, too.
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Someone should have gone to jail... But in America we don't jail Fortune 500 executives; they're above the law. So we just extract some fine, for which they basically have their investors pay...Boy we really showed them!!!
Try using facts next time Kevin: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ced-to-7-years-in-prison-for-diesel-role
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I'll bet Cuba would take a boat load to replace those 57 chevy's I hope VW has good financing, average Cuban makes 30 bucks a month.
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We've talked about how they'd falsified their diesel emission testing. This report says that there are 300k cars, both new and buybacks, sitting in lots until the EPA decides what to do with them. They'll never be sold in the US. Whether you agree with the testing or not, at this time it's the law and VW is going to bite it big time. VW DIESELSServes them right...they committed fraud. Regardless of how someone feels on the air quality thing... They clearly knew the law. No one forced them to make those diesel vehicles; they had lots of gas cars that would have been just fine. They wanted an edge in the marketplace, and they got that edge through fraud; not by innovation. Someone should have gone to jail... But in America we don't jail Fortune 500 executives; they're above the law. So we just extract some fine, for which they basically have their investors pay...Boy we really showed them!!! Pisses me off to no end the BS we let corporations get away with. As a policy the DOJ stopped seeking criminal charges against corporate execs in the opening days of the Obama Administration and that policy continues to this day. We have had corporate execs caught in fraud of all sorts, money laundering for Mexican cartels, arbitrarily approving medications (outside the FDA) for pediatrics that ended up killing kids...this and a LOT more...no prosecutions; only fines. I mean, we can't have politicians putting their corporate masters in jail. Rumors that MB did the same exact thing
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Facts completely escape even the smartest of liberals............ But hey, he got to be thoughly pissed off for awhile.
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Well I'll be damned... Thanks for that.
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In the end, VW will be fine.
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They have lots of money, they aren’t Remington.
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And I bet in the scheme of things the polution wasn't enough to matter any damn way.
We have been scared of our own shadows for a LONG time now.
I'd take one and run the hell out of it personally...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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And I bet in the scheme of things the polution wasn't enough to matter any damn way.
We have been scared of our own shadows for a LONG time now.
I'd take one and run the hell out of it personally... Truthfully ( my opinion only), I sort of admire VW for doing this. The diesel vehicles weren't that bad pollution wise, and would even be better if ultra purified diesel was available for use in US. Some of our pollution laws are onorous and politicized against certain industries and fuels.
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Old Ornery,
The only road legal diesel here is,
ULSD,
Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel
The laws violated by VW are pure bullshit. I believe that the witch hunt was driven by the alternative energy folks.
VW had those cars, running diesel, giving better real world fuel mileage than many of the hybrids. Along with good performance.
There was even a flap concerning VW being pissed that the subsidies given to hybrids weren't offered on their cars that were performing better.
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