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I do not want to live in a country where the military is on every street corner, just waiting for someone to screw up so they can take them off to never be seen again. But, there is nothing wrong with using the military to guard our border......and in particular, our border with Mexico. They should have been there all along. We are living in a totally different world today, from years past, and we do not need anymore of these illegals.

Kudos for Trump for doing the right.......I just hope he means it, and sticks to his guns.

Maybe it is f'd up but they can turn around at any time.

You guys are down there, I'm not. So, I'm sure that you see it through an entirely different perspective than I do. Trump said he was going to build a wall, and as far as I'm concerned, that could be anything from a concrete and barbed wire monstrosity, to a line of soldiers standing shoulder to shoulder, to the DMZ.

Whatever is done, it needs to happen muy pronto, as there is no guarantee than he will be re-elected, or that the GOP will be in control of Washington. The time to do something was yesterday.

“Until we can have a wall and proper security, we are going to be guarding our border with the military. That's a big step,” Trump told reporters at the White House while sitting nearby Defense Secretary James Mattis.

Sounds good to me.

See:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-03/trump-deploys-us-military-southern-border

How abut we give Travis a keg of IPA, the latest class 3 and a gunship?

No blank adaptors please...

i f you have facebook, there is a page for the group organizing this march.
It's now got a fence around it, but down at naco are the remains of the officers and troop quarters for pershing when he went south.
prior to the fences you could prowl around in there, which became a huge repository of caca from illegals headed north.
but i did manage to find some spent shell casings from .30 government and some other calibers still laying on the desert. Interesting place.
buried in the computer someplace are some pictures of the army marching south through bisbee to the border.
facebook page

http://www.pueblosinfronteras.org/index.html

the goldwater institute on this caravan

https://thegoldwater.com/news/22122...avan-of-Socialists-Pueblos-Sin-Fronteras

That’s cool.... as long as they don’t let the Californians leave either.....

Actually.... that kinda sounds like a Win/Win....

I respectfully disagree, i live less than 150 miles from the border. We deal with the effects of our unguarded border everyday. Will putting up the wall stop everyone? No
The cartels will get through without a doubt at some point because the money involved is to big to let go.
But thousands who show up thinking they can just step over a bobwire fence in the AZ desert will be turned back. It will atlast show we are serious about closing the border. It will allow more man power to be sent to places the wall cant effectively be built or where natural obstacles prevent it from being built. Sensors and cameras can let us know when portions have been breached. This aint an 8ft block wall they want to build, its fairly sophisticated. I believe the wall and a $100k fine per employee that are found to be illegal could eliminate alot of problems. Cut off the social programs for them and we are almost there. No free food or medical. They show up at a hospital they get the best care we can give them. Once they are stable, strait back to country of origin.

I'm ALL for a closed border. It HAS to be.

But, imagine if the Trump/Obama presidencies were reversed...

Trump built a big, beautiful wall.

THEN Obammy took office for 8 years.

Hell, Obama would cut holes in it. Or give them shovels and ladders. And pull the teeth from the Border Patrol.. (like he did)

Without enforcement, a wall is useless, and a waste of money.

It's the law, and the willingness to use it that stops people at the border. And a known, visible presence of enforcement.

In ignorance were you conceived and therin you shall evermore abide. You don’t know a damn thing about the border except for what you read on the internet.

I’d rather have a wetback for a Neighbor than a counterfeit Badass like you.

one of the interesting things that keeps popping up in my mind, is something i read probably 30 years ago regarding south america.
it was only a matter of time until mass movements of people from that area to the United States.
The reality of it is given unstable governments, starvation, commodity based economies that go in the dumper, you are having a hard time feeding your self or your family, and you look to disneyland to the north? What do you do?

Long time ago i was talking to a c.p.a. in the tucson area old time arizona family. He had as a couple of clients some people at the UofA that were doing work in southern mexico. This is a place where people supported themselves with small farms. After nafta, they could no longer compete with grain/corn imports into mexico. So the men in whole villages went north, you got to feed the family.
I think there is truth to it. I do think at one point, i don't know if they still do it, mexico was controlling the price of corn and some other commodities, otherwise they would probably be in revolution again.

You’ll have to forgive Ghostinthemachine. He’s been hardened by hordes of Canadian invaders who’ve terrorized Minnesotians with their dry, family friendly sense of humor and austere fashion sensibilities.

I have said it many times in the past:

All it takes to solve the problem is to post a $1000 bounty for anyone who turns in an illegal employee and fine the employer enough to cover the cost of the bounty and the cost of deportation and the problem goes away in a hurry. If there is no employment here there are no illegals here.

We have to be dumber than a box of rocks to subsidize the businesses that hire them! We pay for the enforcement action. We pay for the court costs to process them. We pay for the deportation costs. We pay for the housing costs post arrest. Why should WE put up with that?

If we are going to be letting the businesses that hire them get off without covering the real cost of their illegal actions then we deserve the problem and we deserve people playing us for fools with stupid ass solutions like sending troops to the border.

Not at all wishing to seem naive or reckless but, on a "risk vs. reward" basis, would some of the more astute folks here wish to analyze and explain the "huge risk" of such incursion as noted by Davidson?

There is no doubt that mexico being a failed corrupt state causes much of the problem. What amazes me is that people come from there and want to make America look like mexico. I wish we could have a program where we offered free degrees from our best universitys the only requirement being that after graduating the students could never be US citizens. They would be pushed to make their own country better and have the brain power required to do so. Until mexico gets its chit together we will be dealing with problem.

No employment along with no free government benefits.

It's about time. Seems the USA can protect a boarder anywhere but the USA. Once we have a boarder, illegals need to be expelled. We could cut into unemployment by putting a bounty on illegals heads.

A fugging BFA.....
WTF....

That's really a great picture it shows you what we got working for us 2 border patrol guy's with their hands in their pockets playing with themselves and a national guard guy who's lost with an M-4 and blanks, the little kids and moma's are going to over run them and kick their a$$. Rio7