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WTH would Victor Hansen know, we have Leroy, Guntruck, Paddler and Jell0.

Sounds like Aurora, Colorado. Reconquista is what I think it is called.

About 6% of Montana is Native American while around 13% of California is. No doubt Montana has some big reservations with the accompanying problems both on and off the reservation. As to federal lands - 46% of California, 29% of Montana. As to federal land taxes Montana gets around 27 million dollars a year from payments in lieu of taxes. The tourism at national parks in Montana generate over 400 million dollars a year in economic benefits for the state. It appears the federal lands pay their way.

Could you provide the link?

It’s not just California. A couple years ago my son and I were headed to the Texas coast to do some offshore fishing. I had the boat hooked up to the truck and we stopped in a town 50 miles south of San Antonio to get some food at a whataburger. I pulled parallel along the street and sent the boy in to get us food. As I’m scanning through my phone with the window open I hear a bell ring and I look in the direction of the bell. It was an elementary school right across the road. A hundred little kids come running out into a playground and I swear to you there was less than a dozen white kids in that 100 kid playground. Not saying I have anything against Hispanics but I was like damn..... kind of crazy that there are that many more Mexican kids than white kids in that community.

One thing that the Federal gov could to strike a blow against Democrats and California is to require that they fund the insane public employee pensions. Force them to pay for pensions now so that their employees will receive pensions upon retirement. Either use the average return of the last 5 years to determine what they have to pay for pensions or have them purchase annuities every year that will pay the fraction of the pension for that year upon retirement. The goal is to guarantee that these employees will receive their full pension upon retirement by forcing their employers to pay for them. This will force the Democratics who have bought their offices by pandering to public employee unions to find a way to pay for the pension now instead of someone else 30 years in the future.

Exactly, we fought for that land at least once already. Looks like we will have to do it again.

If you cannot see the civil war coming, you are not paying attention.

The end of California will be in sight when you see J Brown & Co either hanging dead on the end of a rope or in a large pool of their collective blood in the gutter...and that is just the beginning.

My computer just froze and crashed three times putting the links in. What I said is easily searchable. But I wasn't clear with my 13% number, I meant 13% of the Native American population lives in California. So what I wrote gave the wrong impression. But around 6% of Montana's population is Native American.

OK, guys. Here's what I think. Keep in mind I was born here and lived here all but one of my 74 years. Basically, what the article says is true except it isn't all like that. But it has largely changed into what he says.
What he didn't tell you is that many of our big cities have a lot more crime than we are led to believe. Lots of corruption as well.
But I think the biggest problem which needs addressing is the illegal voting. I suspect that's what has given the state's lib their lock on the government and it's policies. It is far too easy to register to vote. Anybody can because nobody checks the accuracy of the information submitted. The voter registration roles are not even purged with any regularity. Los angles county, for instance, cast almost 50% more votes than the census said they had registered voters...... My sister has been told twice now during general elections that she had already voted...... She was allowed to vote after complaining loudly...... Why do you think Trump lost by 4,000,000 votes, but only 2.5 million nationally ?
I pray that the Trump Administration is investigating this situation. In fact, I've often thought that our president makes many of his Twitter posts simply to keep the liberals from pocking around at what is being done behind the scenes. Let's hope so. E

Despite assertions to the contrary on this thread, California is pretty close to a one for one exchange these days in federal tax dollars sent and federal tax dollars received. Further, as was noted, things are skewed in that the federal government buys so many of California’s bonds. And regardless of what it is, no one can argue that things are headed the wrong way. Literally thousands of middle and upper middle class people leave the state every week. There are rich people and there are poor people there. I read something the other day that said that 80% of California’s income tax revenue is paid by just 5,000 people. How long can that keep going?

Though we can see it coming, it is like a cliff. It isn’t going to be gradual. One day, California is going to drive off the cliff. One minute they’ll be driving along and all the usual suspects will say things are well, and the next they’ll be plunging to their deaths.

The one thing he missed in the article were the tweekers and meth cooks in those small farming communities, which covers the small white populace in those out of the way places.

I have a much bigger problem with the middle class unemployed driving escalades and paying for steaks with EBT cards than the illegal food trucks on the side of the ride. I'll take someone that's willing to work in spite of the system vs. someone working the system any day of the week.

Nice thing about living up here is the Meth is all Mexican Cartel meth.

Way more orderly operation. We dont have the meth labs anymore.

Stormin'

Not sure how recently you've looked it up, but CA has a higher percentage of Federal land than Montana does. Various sources show it around +/- 48% for Cali vs +/- 30% for MT.

Look at pg 10 here:

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42346.pdf

More info on sites from this search.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=percent+federal+land+by+state&t=ffsb&ia=web

That's not to say I think the author quoted by the OP is wrong. It's just that many folks have this misconception that CA is all beaches, palm trees, cities,farms in the valley, and mansions in Beverly Hills. Close to 50% of our state is federal land, toss in the state land and the reservations/rancherias and we have a lot of basically "non-taxable" land. Yes, we have reservations too. Perhaps most are not large by MT, AZ, NM standards, but they're here.

http://www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/ca/california.html

Also from this website:
http://www.courts.ca.gov/3066.htm

"According to most recent census data, California is home to more people of Native American/ Alaska Native heritage than any other state in the Country. There are currently 109 federally recognized Indian tribes in California and 78 entities petitioning for recognition. Tribes in California currently have nearly 100 separate reservations or Rancherias. There are also a number of individual Indian trust allotments. These lands constitute “Indian Country”, and a different jurisdictional applies in Indian Country. "

Believe it or not folks, a big chunk of Cali suffers from the same problems as the rest of "the West". Plus, we may be the leaders in finding/using cheap immigrant labor, although many other farming/ranching/dairy/meat processing states give us a good run.

The problem is AMERICAN, not just Californian............ although with our political climate (on a statewide basis that is, not necessarily local) we certainly exacerbate the problems.

Geno

PS, without getting into the minutia of the numbers, it would be hard for me to believe that California does not "contribute" more in the way of funds to the federal coffers, given we are about the 6th largest economy in the world. Do we get back more? Maybe so, but "pork" happens everywhere.

PPS, as for the highways, federally funded ones that is? How much of the stuff the "flyover" zone buys at Wally's, Cabelas, Dollar General, those farm tractors from India, ALL those cars from Korea and Japan, etc come through the Ports of Long Beach, San Fran, LA, and San Diego? They hafta get from the ocean to the other parts of the country by going over Cali roads.

Geno,

Ya it is not a simple calculation and we could go back and forth all day on numbers.

But if you have spent time in both locals it just defies reason that Montana consumes more tax dollars per capita than California?

Montana is geographical is similar to Calif. in size yet we only have 1 million people, hell ,San Jose alone has that many

VDH is probably as astute as any commentator today. He brings a great historical perspective to current issues. His main point is that California now has a two tier system with different legal treatment for longtime residents vs illegal immigrants. The results are bad now and will get worse. California's current path is clearly unsustainable.

Cali isn’t even special in that way. Mexican meth is pretty much the only meth three days...everywhere.

"The End of California is In Sight!" ......we call that "The Beach"

90% Tex-Mex fifty miles south of San Antonio? Been that way as long as I can recall and I’m going on 35 years here. Do not confuse South Texas with California, the majority of those kids would be fourth and fifth generation Americans, Brown and White both.

The time I was in Southern California I was surprised at the sharp separation and dividing lines between Anglo and Mexican, here in S. Texas, more than anywhere I’ve been, nobody GAS about race, could be because most Texas Hispanics, regardless of skin color, check the “White” box on those forms.

Great article, thanks.