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The only other rifle that I'm aware of that can compete with the Tikka at it's price range is the Sauer 100. It has a few features that the Tikka lacks and it's bolt throw is as smooth as the Tikka.
- 5 round flush magazine
- externally adjustable trigger
- scope mount spacing based on Remington 700 so there is a world of options
- Not offered in LH models
The rifle comes in black synthetic or wood but the wood looks like its been finished with a hershey bar. Not a good quality wood (Beech) and not a good finish, but the rifle is accurate, priced right and competes well with the T3X.
I sold a couple of rifles and replaced them with a Tikka T3x Superlight from Sportsmans Warehouse. While I was there, I noticed they had a couple of the Sauer 100's on the shelf and I got a chance to handle one for the first time. I didn't even look at the price tag, but I was favorably impressed by the rifle. Especially the magazine.
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Form- For the Tikka's you use for hunting, what, if anything, do you add/replace/modify it get it ready? IOW, how do you set yours up?
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The only thing I added were Talley lightweight mounts, a Leupuld VX-2 3-9x40 scope, and a Sims limb saver recoil pad. And I adjusted the trigger pull to 2 lbs., 12 oz.
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CrimsonTide, I bought one for my wife and although not a frequent shooter, she really likes it. It is extremely accurate, but most rifles today can make that claim.
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Form- For the Tikka's you use for hunting, what, if anything, do you add/replace/modify it get it ready? IOW, how do you set yours up? Disassemble, adjust the trigger all the way down, degrease all screws, apply thread locker, torque, mount scope, feed bullets.
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Thanks. I'm pretty sure I could like plug-and-play.
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CrimsonTide, I bought one for my wife and although not a frequent shooter, she really likes it. It is extremely accurate, but most rifles today can make that claim. The Sauer 100 or the Tikka?
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CrimsonTide, I bought one for my wife and although not a frequent shooter, she really likes it. It is extremely accurate, but most rifles today can make that claim. The Sauer 100 or the Tikka? Sauer 100. I have several Tikka T3's but was able to get the Sauer through Blaser-USA
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Sauer 100 weighs 6 lb. 12 oz. Tika Superlight weighs 6 lb. 0 oz.
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The Sauer 100 is interesting, and they are offering it in 6.5 PRC.....
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I had a Tikka. Nice little rifle, accurate, real nice to hunt with. I just couldn't get used to all the plastic, and the long bolt throw on a 223. Sold it to a guy for his kid to deer hunt with, and it's done the job just as it should.
I have 5 Model 700's and 4 Model 7's, a couple old, the rest mostly new. All are every bit as accurate as the Tikka was, and for my hunting and shooting needs, they shoot better than I do. Yeah, the new Remington triggers suck, and those on the Tikka don't. But, you get used to something, as I am the Model 700's and 7's, and it's hard to change. I just happen to prefer the Remington 700, just as a lot of people do. That doesn't mean anything else won't work, and I'd buy another Tikka if the opportunity arose. But, I can guarantee you one thing, I'll always have more Remington's. Never even owned a Tikka,so help me out. I know they are all long actions but is the bolt throw longer? I thought they had bolt stops specific to the caliber? I know the new T3X has metal bolt shroud and can't you get all metal bottom metal and metal mags? Though I think the Mountain Tactical mags have a slotted hole in the center which I see as a stupid design allowing trash or dirt or snow to get in your mags. Am I wrong on the bottom metal and mags or is there something else available? The slots will not be visible outside the magazine well . I should have preordered 2 of them when they were 39.99 , price almost doubled on them
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Sako A7 roughtech, semi custom rifle feel. I have one in 308 and the other is a Tecomate 270 wsm. A shade over $1000 but worth every penny IMO
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Sako A7 roughtech, semi custom rifle feel. I have one in 308 and the other is a Tecomate 270 wsm. A shade over $1000 but worth every penny IMO What is the mag. box length on your Tecomate 270 WSM? TIA
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Sauer 100. I have several Tikka T3's but was able to get the Sauer through Blaser-USA OSU, What size groups, and have you had any issues with the barrel contacting the stock? Thanks, Jason
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I went to SW a few weeks ago just to look at the Sauer 100.
Things I like about the Sour:
-5-rd flush mag
-3-pos. safety (locks bolt)
-handle won't fall off
-good trigger
-supposedly excellent barrels, but almost everyone makes a decent barrel today
-good bolt stop
I was told that the safety blocks the sear, and not just the trigger, but I don't know for sure
Only gripe is that it is blued, so I would treat the bore with DynaCoat. And the fore end didn't see quite as stiff as Tikkler.
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Compared to the Tikkler, I like the Sour 100 due to:
1. Flush mag
2. Appears better at handling stray gas from a case rupture (due to fat bolt)
3. Solid bolt stop
4. Safety blocks sear (?)
Not sure about #4, but if true, that would be an improvement over the T3 for some people.
I was pleasantly surprised by the bolt stop. On the rifle that we looked at, the impact force from moving the bolt rearward went into the stop and into the receiver. It did not appear that the stop pin was taking the load. On a Tikka or RAR, the pin gets loaded. Although rare, there are instances of the pins failing.
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I have a Tikka T3x and an older 700 and I cannot tell the difference in bolt smoothness.
First : I have and like both Tikka & older 700s. My first T3Lite goes back to 2003. Still got it. This year I got a T3x Lite in 7 mag. I’ve had more 700s than any other brand. From 1976 to date I’ve not had one malfunction or breakage w/700s. OTOH - None of the 700s’ bolts were or are as SMOOTH as the Tikka’s, Mainly because of the double stack magazine with its follower. Some knock the D M latch on the Tikka. ? ? Since 2003 mine has NEVER unlatched itself. I’ve never dropped it. I’ve never left it (forgot). I’ll take a D M every day OVER a blind mag, my personal preference. Jerry
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I have a Tikka T3x and an older 700 and I cannot tell the difference in bolt smoothness.
First : I have and like both Tikka & older 700s. My first T3Lite goes back to 2003. Still got it. This year I got a T3x Lite in 7 mag. I’ve had more 700s than any other brand. From 1976 to date I’ve not had one malfunction or breakage w/700s. OTOH - None of the 700s’ bolts were or are as SMOOTH as the Tikka’s, Mainly because of the double stack magazine with its follower. Some knock the D M latch on the Tikka. ? ? Since 2003 mine has NEVER unlatched itself. I’ve never dropped it. I’ve never left it (forgot). I’ll take a D M every day OVER a blind mag, my personal preference. Jerry I agree there I won't have a blind magazine rifle.
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DBM, floorplates, and blind mags used to matter to me...but somehow they don't anymore.
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