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Once again the Pope and Young Club will be holding its Rendezvous. There are so many bowhunting related things to see and do, the link below is the best resource to learn what they all are.

Once again I will be in the vendor tent (booth 14 between the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association and HHA.)

This event is geared towards all bowhunters of all ages and genders. If you are a bowhunter or want to become a bowhunter, this is a must attend. Bring your bow and arrow as there will be several courses and opportunities to shoot. (open to all the various legal bows and arrow types). 3 fun filled days with the emphasis on bowhunting in the birth place of bowhunting (WI was the very first state to create an archery deer season and license for bowhunting and the term "Bowhunter" and "Bowhunting" were coined by Wisconsin's own Roy Case). If you are bowhunter, wish to become a bowhunter and/or support bowhunting, you are welcome to attend.

https://www.pope-young.org/rendezvous/default.asp

Cool - what do they have for crossbow hunters?

No, you misunderstand. This event is for bowhunters and bowhunting. Look to the Crossbow federation for them to put on an event for that sort and that weapon.

So its clear, this event is for bowhunters and bowhunting. Bows used for hunting that are drawn at the time of the attempt on game via only human effort where only human effort is used to overcome the peak weight and the draw is never locked or held.

You know........................ Bowhunting. This event will include and allow all forms of bowhunting weapons.

Pope and Young defines a bow for hunting purposes as

The Pope and Young Club has established the following standard definitions of bowhunting equipment.

I. Hunting Bow

A. A hunting bow for big game shall be a longbow, flat bow, recurve bow, compound bow or any combination of these designs meeting the following requirements and restrictions:

1. A device for launching an arrow, which derives its propulsive energy solely from the bending and recovery of two limbs.

2. The bow must be hand drawn by a single and direct, uninterrupted pulling action of the shooter. The bowstring must be moved from brace height to the full draw position by the muscle power of the shooter’s body. The energy used to propel the arrow shall not be derived from any other source such as hydraulic, pneumatic, mechanical or similar devices. These limitations shall not exclude the mechanical leverage advantage provided by eccentric wheels or cams so long as the available energy stored in the bent limbs of the bow is the sole result of a single, continuous, and direct pulling effort by the shooter.

3. The bow must be hand-held. One hand shall hold the bow and the other hand draw the bowstring. The bowstring must be moved and/or held at all points in the draw cycle entirely by the muscle power of the shooter until release. The bowstring must be released as a direct and conscious action of the shooter’s either relaxing the tension of the fingers or triggering the release action of a hand-held release aid.

4. The bow shall be no shorter than 30 inches.

B. Exceptions: Physically handicapped bowhunters shall be excepted from the requirements of holding or shooting the bow with their hands.

C. Exclusions:

1. The following shall not be considered a hunting bow:

a.) A crossbow.

b.) Any device with a gun-type stock or incorporating any device or mechanism that holds the bowstring at partial or full draw without the shooter’s muscle power.

c.) Electronic or battery-powered devices shall not be attached to a hunting bow, with the exception of recording devices that cast no light towards the target and do not aid in rangefinding, sighting or shooting the bow.

d.) No portion of the bow’s riser (handle) or any track, trough, channel or other device that attaches directly to the bow’s riser shall contact, support, and/or guide the arrow from a point rearward of the bow’s brace height.

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You may want to inquire with a crossbow club to see if they are putting on such an outstanding event for that sort of stocked, shoulder fired, stored energy, weapon but this event will only be for bowhunting and bowhunters and everything that goes into that great sport.

Real bowhunters only.............you mean those that have 65% let off or less bows............oh wait a minute...................

Real bowhunters as in hunting with Bows that are drawn at the time of the attempt on game via only human effort where only human effort is used to overcome the peak weight and the draw is never locked or held.

Pretty simple stuff. One would have to try to confuse something so simple

Or they would have to struggle mentally with simple concepts.

Not sure where you came up with 65% (aside from ignorance of the subject matter) but its clear you have never read any P&Y material or you would see:

" Let-Off for Compound Bows: * There is no maximum let-off for a hand-held, hand-released bows. We do gather statistics on this data, therefore we state how let-off should be measured.

1. Definition of let-off: That characteristic of a bow that results in a reduction of the force necessary to increase the draw length after the highest level of draw force has been reached. This is characteristic generally associated with, but not restricted to, compound bows.

2. The maximum let-off on a compound bow shall be measured at a point in the draw cycle after the peak draw weight has been attained. It shall be measured near the end of the draw cycle where the minimum holding force is reached. This point in the draw cycle on a compound bow is known as "the bottom of the valley."

3. Determination of the percent of let-off: The values of the peak draw force and the let-off force shall be used to calculate the percent of let-off. The peak force is the maximum force obtained during the draw cycle. The let-off force is the lowest force reached following the peak force during a single uninterrupted draw cycle. In all cases, both the highest and lowest force shall be read from a scale during a single and continual pull condition, without relaxation. This technique eliminates the introduction of hysteresis, which can distort the reading.

% Let-off = 100 X [(Peak Draw Force) - (Minimum Holding Force)] / (Peak Draw Force)"

Im sure that in your head you were thinking you were making a point but it ended up not being the point you hoped to make.

Im not laughing with you.

Its pretty simple. If you are a bowhunter, want to be come one or learn about bowhunting or support bowhunting and/or P&Y and if you are in WI on June 8-10 this would be a good event for you to attend. There will be a lot of emphasis on kids/youth archery/bowhunting since getting kids involved with the great sport of bowhunting is a very worthwhile cause. Remember, bowhunting excludes nobody.

Perhaps groups centered around other, non-bowhunting weapons will create an event like this for that weapons type and folks can attend that event if they are not into bowhunting.

P&Y rules used to say no more that 65% letoff.
They changed it (around 2004).
IMHO they shouldn't have.
Now kindly GFY.

Women didn't used to be able to vote too. Seems you have some catching up to do. LOL about the fact P&Y changed it 14 years ago and your just learning about now. Im glad I could educate you on the matter so you didn't maintain your current level of ignorance. Happy to have helped.

As for GFY, Yes, I agree, Good For You for taking the time to allow yourself to be educated on P&Y.

Let me know what other things you are stuck on that you need help with. We will get your mind right at some point.

Don't forget, the P&Y event is on June 8-10 and is open to all types of bows and bowhunters. My company will be in Booth 14. Stop by and say hi.

One of the youth activities for 10 to 18 year olds. Raised At Full Draw Mini-Camp

http://www.pope-young.org/information/news_detail.asp?news=134

One of the things to do dedicated specifically for the ladies.

http://www.pope-young.org/information/news_detail.asp?news=133

The P&Y adventure race will put you to the test.

http://www.pope-young.org/information/news_detail.asp?news=136

If bowfishing is your bag, there is an event for you too.

http://www.pope-young.org/information/news_detail.asp?news=137

Some of the other events

http://pope-young.org/rendezvous/contest.asp

I wouldn't want you anywhere near kids after hearing how you talk to them.....

"It's too bad they let little kids on here. Come back after you have grown up and understand how this site works. Do your parents know you are on the internet? I blame the public school system for turning out kids like you. It does not speak well for the future of this country. This was emailed to my son from the dip Retch Sweeney a.k.a. Ron Kulas. This because my son put his question on the bow hunting forum by mistake or as he said" should have been a general discussion."

"This idiot messaged my son when he asked a ? on a forum. Chewed my son a new one and calling him unethical and other stupid saying's with him asking simple Question at the age of 12."

Additional events and activities to do while in attendance.

Themed 3D diorama shooting courses including
Predator, African, Sheep Country, Western Plains, North American Big Game and Deer/Hog Country featuring McKenzie & Rinehart targets

Long-distance shooting course

Aerial Archery - Flying disk range (trad equipment and Flu-Flu arrows)

The Iron Bear Shooting Challenge

Long Distance Shooting

Bowfishing shoot venue (sponsored by Muzzy)

Kids’ shooting area (S3DA sponsored)

Hunt/Gear auction

Bowhunting seminars

MacKenzie Center Wildlife Exhibit

Trying to post bury the fact you F'd up.
What a douche.

Yeah, 14 yrs ago P&Y changed.
I knew the P&Y rules, before and after the change.

Just mentioned the old rule.............you know, when bowhunters were really bowhunters.

Educator? Yeah, the only thing you've taught any of us.......is that your parents failed.

Epic fail on your part. (again) You cant hide your mistake. Its ok, Im bringing you up to speed. I dealt with more ignorant folks without giving up on them.

It was pretty funny though. Even the excuse you tried to pass off. What a total dope.

No mistake.
Right after the rule change I ordered my Hoyt with 65% let off.
Two reasons.
Like the feel of 65% letoff.
And the old rules were fine.

For somebody supposedly representing others, and or having a business............you really are a disgrace.

You act like a drag queen with no stage. Pathetic.

I find it funny that the idiot types post after post spending so much time to try to be accepted. Wouldn't ya take the hint and move on? For the most part, he gets much of the same from the other forums so I guess any attention is good attention. Lmao