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gunner, I believe you will continue to draw 0's. 750 grs. at 1365 fps? Methinks your adjective, "hellacious" not descriptive enough.!! I've not gone anywhere NEAR that big though my 45-90 with a 480 gr. NEI bullet at about 1200 fps has never been concerned with 4 ft. of whitetail.
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Congrats on your retirement, I like your style! For my 50th birthday I bought myself a C. Sharps Arms '74 in, what else? The "Big Fifty" (.50 2 1/2"). SWEET, I have a C-Sharps 50-90 too, it's a 30" barreled eleven pound bruiser a man can carry and hunt with, 750 gr greasers at 1365 fps is a hellacious load, just put one through 9ft of bedded Bull Eland at 60 yards in Africa, smoked a big old blue black Sable Bull at 99 yards too. Have been racking my brain ever since to come up with ANY smokeless fired cartridge shooting an expanding soft point bullet that would have penetrated that far, I keep drawing zeros. You're a better man than I Gunner!! My .50 is what C. Sharps calls a "hunters carbine", 26" round tapered barrel, carbine butt (ouch). It weighs 3 pounds less than yours, it carries well but rears back some when I shoot it! After the first range session I ordered a lace on pad, which makes it a bit more tolerable. My load is a 515 gr flat point at about the same speed as yours, but I don't think I could handle 750 grs in my rifle!
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gunner, I believe you will continue to draw 0's. 750 grs. at 1365 fps? Methinks your adjective, "hellacious" not descriptive enough.!! I've not gone anywhere NEAR that big though my 45-90 with a 480 gr. NEI bullet at about 1200 fps has never been concerned with 4 ft. of whitetail. LOL, Sharps45-90, without me sidetracking Sportsdads thread too much, I would NOT shoot a match with that rifle, for hunting it is a stone cold killer, fully agreed on your 480 grain 45-90 combo too, I put a 416 gr Lyman flat nosed greaser completely through a 5pt WT buck at 105 yards lengthways, and a 400 gr flat nosed paper patch three quarters lengthways through a rattled in 7 pt buck last year from my dinky 40-65 Sharps. These rifles are for sure hide, meat and bone plows.
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Congrats on your retirement, I like your style! For my 50th birthday I bought myself a C. Sharps Arms '74 in, what else? The "Big Fifty" (.50 2 1/2"). SWEET, I have a C-Sharps 50-90 too, it's a 30" barreled eleven pound bruiser a man can carry and hunt with, 750 gr greasers at 1365 fps is a hellacious load, just put one through 9ft of bedded Bull Eland at 60 yards in Africa, smoked a big old blue black Sable Bull at 99 yards too. Have been racking my brain ever since to come up with ANY smokeless fired cartridge shooting an expanding soft point bullet that would have penetrated that far, I keep drawing zeros. You're a better man than I Gunner!! My .50 is what C. Sharps calls a "hunters carbine", 26" round tapered barrel, carbine butt (ouch). It weighs 3 pounds less than yours, it carries well but rears back some when I shoot it! After the first range session I ordered a lace on pad, which makes it a bit more tolerable. My load is a 515 gr flat point at about the same speed as yours, but I don't think I could handle 750 grs in my rifle! Damn, three pounds off plus a curved butt, no Thanks here either, mine does at least have a good flat shotgun butt, bet that 515 will get it all done regardless. The 750 gr flat nosed greaser from a custom Brooks mould expanded to .775" in the Eland bull and still weighs 743 grains, how's that for expansion, weight retention and penetration ? ;]
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I have an original conversion gun rebarreled to 50 2.5" with a 1 in 36 twist so it's for 450 to 550 gr bullets and it shoots them ok. I shoot my Shiloh/ C.Sharps 50-3 .25" a lot more than the old gun it weighs 10 lbs 3 oz. It will kill on both ends if one isn't careful with it.
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I have two similar Shiloh Sharps rifles, both are a number 1. One is 45/70, the other 50/70. I shoot smokeless in both. So far the 45 has killed two antelope and a big elk. The 50 has taken one pig. They are terrific rifles.
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They are fine rifles, beyond any shadow of doubt. gunner, I use that same Lyman 40 cal. bullet in my Shiloh #1 Sporter in 40-70SS...with like results. It's loaded over 61 grs. of original batch GOEX Ctg....which I am almost out of!!!!!!!
Hide, meat and bone plows....I like that!!! Yes they are!!! The #1 Sporter mentioned is also superbly accurate with that same bullet out to 600 yards. Mak, uhhh, sportsdad, is going to end up in a love affair with his.
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I have an original conversion gun rebarreled to 50 2.5" with a 1 in 36 twist so it's for 450 to 550 gr bullets and it shoots them ok. I shoot my Shiloh/ C.Sharps 50-3 .25" a lot more than the old gun it weighs 10 lbs 3 oz. It will kill on both ends if one isn't careful with it. The mere mention of a 50-140 Sharps has me seeing a gallon jug of liquid Advil in the back of my mind! ;]
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I have two similar Shiloh Sharps rifles, both are a number 1. One is 45/70, the other 50/70. I shoot smokeless in both. So far the 45 has killed two antelope and a big elk. The 50 has taken one pig. They are terrific rifles. Good shooting Dale, have you ever considered running Holy Black in those rifles?
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They are fine rifles, beyond any shadow of doubt. gunner, I use that same Lyman 40 cal. bullet in my Shiloh #1 Sporter in 40-70SS...with like results. It's loaded over 61 grs. of original batch GOEX Ctg....which I am almost out of!!!!!!!
Hide, meat and bone plows....I like that!!! Yes they are!!! The #1 Sporter mentioned is also superbly accurate with that same bullet out to 600 yards. Mak, uhhh, sportsdad, is going to end up in a love affair with his. Yup, and they aint making anymore of it, maybe you can get by with OE FG, yessir, they will penetrate to next week, and Sportsdad don't know what he's in for yet.
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When you run out of Cartridge, grab up a can of OE 1 1/2 and prime those cases with rp 9 1/2 primers.
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A 24HCF BPCR Buffalo hunt with all you Sharps shooters would be a epic!
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A 24HCF BPCR Buffalo hunt with all you Sharps shooters would be a epic! Dang right, maybe Ranch13, Kurt or someone in the know can put it together, I'M IN! Lets start a potential list of attendees. Ranch Kurt Sharpsguy EvilTwin FlyboyFlem Jorge pacecars TMitch Sportsdad gunner Feel free to add, problem may be finding a place big enough to handle that many kills.
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guner, Ranch, it's on the list to try. As with Swiss I've never heard a bad thing about it. I don't have enough original batch GOEX Ctg. to make it through 2 matches if I still shot competitively. I know what sportsdad thinks of that fine Trapdoor he has. You're right, he's in for a real treat.
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A 24HCF BPCR Buffalo hunt with all you Sharps shooters would be a epic! Dang right, maybe Ranch13, Kurt or someone in the know can put it together, I'M IN! Lets start a potential list of attendees. Ranch Kurt Sharpsguy EvilTwin FlyboyFlem Jorge pacecars TMitch Sportsdad gunner Feel free to add, problem may be finding a place big enough to handle that many kills. We need a buffalo wrangler!
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3 freezers full of beef, I don't think I'll be buff hunting any time soon.
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3 freezers full of beef, I don't think I'll be buff hunting any time soon. LOL, I've got two full of deer, elk, wild pig, beef, with very little bison left, can buy another freezer, I have the space ;]
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Freezers is cheap.
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