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several years back i wandered by an auction at the local firehall. i cruised it quick and rolled on up the street to the restaurant i was heading to. on my way back i passed again and it was over and they were throwing stuff in the dumpster. i got 2 or three old grain shovels, a couple of hoes (not those kind) and a nice manure fork. still have them. i couldn't believe they were throwing them away. that manure fork is a prize. you can load a bushel of mulch on that baby and sling it 15 feet.
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Wife's dad used to do a bit of genealogy research which often involved looking over old last will and testaments. Apparently common hand tools were prized and valued possessions back in the old days as each tool was included and itemized by detailed description separately in wills with names of who was supposed inherit what tool.
I can believe that. I collect antique woodworking tools. I have a pretty good collection of tools that can and do get used. The mark of a "True Carpenter " was a Plow Block Plane. If he had one in his tools, you KNEW he was a true professional. Nowadays, we would use a dado blade, table saw or router for the same job. A Plaw Block Plane is used to cut a preset groove a preset distance from the edge of a piece of wood. It was used to set the bottoms of drawers, in cabinet making. (I have one)
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Wife's dad used to do a bit of genealogy research which often involved looking over old last will and testaments. Apparently common hand tools were prized and valued possessions back in the old days as each tool was included and itemized by detailed description separately in wills with names of who was supposed inherit what tool.
I can believe that. I collect antique woodworking tools. I have a pretty good collection of tools that can and do get used. The mark of a "True Carpenter " was a Plow Block Plane. If he had one in his tools, you KNEW he was a true professional. Nowadays, we would use a dado blade, table saw or router for the same job. A Plaw Block Plane is used to cut a preset groove a preset distance from the edge of a piece of wood. It was used to set the bottoms of drawers, in cabinet making. (I have one) i have a full set of wood planes that were the wifes grandads. iron wood with brass and ivory fittings. back to shovels. i just brought a new one home from the hardware store yesterday. it should be thrown away! the cast of the blade makes it almost impossible to stomp to depth. wants to roll . POS
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Wife's dad used to do a bit of genealogy research which often involved looking over old last will and testaments. Apparently common hand tools were prized and valued possessions back in the old days as each tool was included and itemized by detailed description separately in wills with names of who was supposed inherit what tool.
I can believe that. I collect antique woodworking tools. I have a pretty good collection of tools that can and do get used. The mark of a "True Carpenter " was a Plow Block Plane. If he had one in his tools, you KNEW he was a true professional. Nowadays, we would use a dado blade, table saw or router for the same job. A Plaw Block Plane is used to cut a preset groove a preset distance from the edge of a piece of wood. It was used to set the bottoms of drawers, in cabinet making. (I have one) i have a full set of wood planes that were the wifes grandads. iron wood with brass and ivory fittings. back to shovels. i just brought a new one home from the hardware store yesterday. it should be thrown away! the cast of the blade makes it almost impossible to stomp to depth. wants to roll . POS This one is a bit on the ridicules side But many had jeweled fittings, and inlays. https://goo.gl/images/6ZAuiF
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the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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My dad was born in 1923 and grew up in an era when people had very little money and all the time in the world. I'm not rich by any means, but all of us have more money than most anyone during the 30's. Today time is in short supply. Dad would spend hours repairing something that cost $5. If it were something with family history that I wanted to keep then I might do the same. But if I've got a job to do I'm money ahead to trash it and buy another.
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This drives me nuts. I don’t know why replacement handles are so pricey. Buy shovels/ rakes & other yard implements with good hardwood handles. Sand and apply good coat of poly as soon as you get them home. Keep 'em in the shed.
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first thing I do, is sand that 'good coat of poly' off.........
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first thing I do, is sand that 'good coat of poly' off......... me too, linseed oil
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Threads like this get ironically interesting when you get old. My grandfather worked in the woods and when an axe handle broke he didn't buy a new one he made it. Really nice work, other loggers asked him to make them. I have his draw knife with which he could work miracles. Unfortunately any magic in it went with him.
Today many wouldn't even consider replacing a handle. So if you're a manufacturer having to maintain a supply chain in balance there's not much money in replacement handles, more in selling replacement shovels. But for brand loyalty you still sell handles to the old farts that still think that way and mark up to maintain a profit margin.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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I usually buy shovels, rakes and hoes with fiberglass handles
That way i can leave in the rain or whatever i don't care.
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I must live under a rock. I have been using tools all my life and have never heard of a "sharpshooter" tool . WTF, over? Fancy marketing name for a trenching shovel or spade. Just goes to show, you can't call a spade a spade nowdays!!!
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I usually buy shovels, rakes and hoes with fiberglass handles
That way i can leave in the rain or whatever i don't care.
I thought that way once but found fiberglass handles not as pleasant to use as properly maintained wood handles. I don't care what Sitka may say, boiled linseed oil has its uses.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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fiberglass gets run over and its done for . have run over wood handles with a tractor or pickup and just had them flex. another for boiled linseed oil. gun stocks and hammer handles too.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Fiberglass also starts to break down in sunlight. I have a couple items with fiberglass handles, but they stay in the shed when not in use. Fiberglass in your hands sucks.
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the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
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You might be able to get handles cheaper by buying them straight from the factory. I know that walk-ins can, I buy all my handles there. But I do not know if they ship to individuals. http://www.tennesseehickory.com/products.shtml
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Fiberglass also starts to break down in sunlight. I have a couple items with fiberglass handles, but they stay in the shed when not in use. Fiberglass in your hands sucks. I used the same fiberglass handled hoes, shovels and roofing tear-off tools for almost 10 yrs every day on roofs in the sun. Mine held up fine. Daily abuse, sun exposure. Fiberglass in your hands are just something that comes with the job. Good thick callous hands take care of that. Lest you got girlie- hands
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Check out house handle...they are in Missouri and have been carving out hickory handled for years...their prices are reasonable enough to fix old tools...yes you can buy a handle fo an axe or shovel from a hardware store but they mark them up 300% .....keeps the throwaway mentality alive..
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