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I get 3200 fps with 63 gr N 165 in my 280 AI, 1/2 moa
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I have said it before and will say it again.... I think it is funny a 26" barrel on a rifle is too long for use in heavier cover while a 26" barrel on a shotgun is handy in heavier cover.
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And though the numbers are good there isn't an incredible performance edge over the 270 other than at the heavy bullet end. The 270 Winchester is NOT the standard by which all others are measured. Hate to disappoint. A little reminder: Remington brought out the 280 R to 'simulate' 270 Win performance in their semi-auto. The kiss of death being the semi-auto. They'd been a whole lot better off simply developing the 280 closer to it potential. The rest is HISTORY. Jerry
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And though the numbers are good there isn't an incredible performance edge over the 270 other than at the heavy bullet end. The 270 Winchester is NOT the standard by which all others are measured. Hate to disappoint. A little reminder: Remington brought out the 280 R to 'simulate' 270 Win performance in their semi-auto. The kiss of death being the semi-auto. They'd been a whole lot better off simply developing the 280 closer to it potential. The rest is HISTORY. Jerry You're thinking of the 284 W, Jerry. The 280 came out in 1957 in a bolt gun.
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No, I wasn't thinking of Winchester's 284.
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The first .280 I ever saw was as a teen, it was in a friends Mod 740. He was the "only" one in the area! Later in life, after reading a lot of Jim Carmichael, I bought my very first bolt gun (I'm not counting the Mod 1917 my uncle gave me several years before) a Mod 77 in .280. It had been in the same gun store for a over a year when it was marked down "for the third time". this was in '77-78. I got and started handloading with a LEE Classic Loader, an RCBS bean scale and three loading manuals, ha. I used the factory 150cl that first year's hunt ( while I was gathering up my reloading stuff) shot as nice buck at 15yds ( Big thicket, East, Tx) no challenge, ha. I then handloaded the Hornady 139gr sp over 55gr IMR4831 in those same box of cases all summer! I would load a box, then have to drive 35 miles away to a 200yd range and practice. I went several times that summer. Come that Fall, I shot a nice buck on a pipeline right of way at 276 long steps! I actually "thought" he was around 220yds or so! Sighted +2 100 I just held dead on. I found the bullet under the hide on the far side, but it killed that buck so quick he still had a mouthful of grass in his mouth. I killed a hog that year then for Xmas was given my first 7mm Mag, Mod 700. The 280 got traded for a new Colt Python and I used that 7mm for another 10yrs. I Played with a 257AI, but always hunt ed with the Big 7. I could have done everything I ever did with any 7mag with that same Mod 77 .280, ha. But man! I sure had fun along the way!
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A little reminder:
Remington brought out the 280 R to 'simulate' 270 Win performance in their semi-auto.
The kiss of death being the semi-auto. They'd been a whole lot better off simply developing the 280 closer to it potential. The rest is HISTORY.
From the pages of Hornady Reloading Manual: Jerry
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^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
The 270 Winchester is NOT the standard by which all others are measured. Hate to disappoint.
No Not All but the 270 Win IS the standard by which the 280 Rem WAS compared. Jerry
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Remington brought out the 280 R to 'simulate' 270 Win performance in their semi-auto.
The kiss of death being the semi-auto. They'd been a whole lot better off simply developing the 280 closer to it potential. The rest is HISTORY.
Jerry
You're thinking of the 284 W, Jerry. The 280 came out in 1957 in a bolt gun. From the pages of Hornady Reloading Manual: Oh Yeah ? GRIN My Memory has holes in it too. Jerry
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