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Originally Posted by deflave
Lots of people do.

I think this is more of a reflection of our society and culture than the parents themselves. It's hard to convince them they should be on their own when every outside force is telling them your parents are ass holes. TV, music, schools, da police. I started telling my kids they were out on their ass at age 18 when they were very little. It seems instilled in them because they ask questions a lot about apartments and jobs and similar.


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Originally Posted by hatari
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He is the fruit of the tree.



Sometimes, then again sometimes not.

Take my best friend. He has 3 boys. Youngest just graduated from UGA, and starts Med school this Fall. Middle son was drafted by the Boston Red Sox right out of high school. Great athlete. Played minor league baseball for 4 seasons, then was released on a Friday and signed to play football with UGA the next Monday. Going into his last season, he will graduate in December and then go to Grad school for Finance. Oldest son was also a great baseballer. Signed a scholarship to play for Georgia State University. Halfway through his first semester, stopped going to class. He quit baseball. Started staying out late - really late- hanging with the wrong crowd. Dropped out of school. Knocked up his "girlfriend" who is so psycho he won't marry her, but lives with her and is raising their kid who is now 2 1/2. No degree, went and got training for HVAC tech. Repeated failed his pee test, so no job Turns out he and the chick snort heroine. Got busted for possession. Judge put him on probation due to first offender and family. Kid won't follow terms of his probation properly, and now has his ass in a wringer. Basically, he went off to school, and Bipolar disorder kicked in and he was an addiction problem waiting to happen. He cannot pull it his life together, and there were no indications that this would be an issue when he was younger. Top student, top athlete, good looking, sociable, respectful, all the things you want to see in your kid.

Same parents, same gene pool. Smart, talented, well mannered, well raised kids. They have a mind of their own and sometimes one will come with issues.



I agree with your post and have seen people with bi-polar disorder who are, or can be, all the positive things and all of the negative things that you've written about your friend's oldest son. When they are taking their prescribed meds and seeing their Psychiatrist and Psychologist regularly they are often fully functional contributing members of society, but if their egos get in the way and they start to self-medicate with recreational drugs and/or alcohol they often getting into a downward spiral that is very hard to recover from.

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There will come a time where it'll be root hog or die... again.

There's gonna be lots of people in a world of hurt when that happens.

They think it CAN'T happen. Shows just how little they know..

The entire world can change as we know it, in a matter of minutes.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar


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Nobody's fault except the parents!!


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I bet they would do things a little differently.

This new craze of letting kids be kids is dumb.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I bet they would do things a little differently.

This new craze of letting kids be kids is dumb.


Kids being kids isn't the problem, adults being kids is.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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I bet they would do things a little differently.

This new craze of letting kids be kids is dumb.


Kids being kids isn't the problem, adults being kids is.




Yeah, 30 years old isn't a "kid"...

Geez, I barely made it to my 18th birthday to move out on my own.

Best thing I ever did.


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I would not have put up with that as long as they did.
Having said that, my son Lived in my home rent free until he was almost 30. Just proof positive that all situations are not the same.

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oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?


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Originally Posted by JJHACK
oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?



I'm appalled why anyone would involve the police either..

I'd be kickin' his ass but not to the point of murder...


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Some get dropped on the head.....some need to be.


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Was hearing of this on the radio today and the only one I feel sorry for is that guys young son that he lost custody of..... What the hell kind of father figure is that clown?

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I won't be surprised to read one day that he killed his parents while they slept.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by JJHACK
oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?



I'm appalled why anyone would involve the police either..

I'd be kickin' his ass but not to the point of murder...


Tenant Laws.

The parents probably tried to boot his ass out and he called the cops.

My son is going through a divorce right now and stayed with us for awhile, if he decided he didn't want to move out he could have forced us to start eviction proceedings and gotten himself more time.


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Often times the jackass living in your place rent free has more rights than you do.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by JJHACK
oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?



I'm appalled why anyone would involve the police either..

I'd be kickin' his ass but not to the point of murder...


Tenant Laws.

The parents probably tried to boot his ass out and he called the cops.

My son is going through a divorce right now and stayed with us for awhile, if he decided he didn't want to move out he could have forced us to start eviction proceedings and gotten himself more time.


Yeah, I understand alla that.

If he were my kid though, he wouldn't have been cheated out of me stomping a mudhole in his ass after I drug him and his schidt out into the front yard.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Yeah, I understand alla that.

If he were my kid though, he wouldn't have been cheated out of me stomping a mudhole in his ass after I drug him and his schidt out into the front yard.


And that is why your kid wouldn't even think of pulling that schit, Mine either.


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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by ringworm
He is the fruit of the tree.



Sometimes, then again sometimes not.

Take my best friend. He has 3 boys. Youngest just graduated from UGA, and starts Med school this Fall. Middle son was drafted by the Boston Red Sox right out of high school. Great athlete. Played minor league baseball for 4 seasons, then was released on a Friday and signed to play football with UGA the next Monday. Going into his last season, he will graduate in December and then go to Grad school for Finance. Oldest son was also a great baseballer. Signed a scholarship to play for Georgia State University. Halfway through his first semester, stopped going to class. He quit baseball. Started staying out late - really late- hanging with the wrong crowd. Dropped out of school. Knocked up his "girlfriend" who is so psycho he won't marry her, but lives with her and is raising their kid who is now 2 1/2. No degree, went and got training for HVAC tech. Repeated failed his pee test, so no job Turns out he and the chick snort heroine. Got busted for possession. Judge put him on probation due to first offender and family. Kid won't follow terms of his probation properly, and now has his ass in a wringer. Basically, he went off to school, and Bipolar disorder kicked in and he was an addiction problem waiting to happen. He cannot pull it his life together, and there were no indications that this would be an issue when he was younger. Top student, top athlete, good looking, sociable, respectful, all the things you want to see in your kid.

Same parents, same gene pool. Smart, talented, well mannered, well raised kids. They have a mind of their own and sometimes one will come with issues.


Remember Cain and Abel. Same parents same gene pool.


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Originally Posted by JJHACK
oddly why was a court order and a judge required?

He was trespassing and had no legal rights to be in that home!

Am I missing something? Why not call the police and have them remove the trespasser, or file a restraining order? How does this even get into a legal question about that idiots rights ( non-rights) as the case may be?

I;m simply stumped about this needing to reach a level of a court case with a judge?


Civil vs. Criminal based on state law would be my guess.




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