Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles WSM's dying????

The WSMs were reported to have problems feeding thus the reason Winchester came out with what was called the Controlled Round Push Feed to help with that. I have a few rifles that shoot belted cases and have never experienced any problems with them.

I’ve got WSM’S in PF and CRF rifles, and have zero feeding problems in either,

The very early CRF M70's had some feeding problems, but those were solved pretty quickly. Over the years I've used various WSM's, all .270's or .300's, in three CRF Model 70's, two Nosler 48's, a Browning A-Bolt and a Kimber. All fed just fine, including the CRF M70 I have right now.

That is because Winchester never marketed them right. And no one but Kimber builds a WSM designed around the cartridges strengths. If you're going to build a rifle the same size and weight as a standard belted magnum cartridge there is very little reason to choose any of the WSM's over traditional magnum cartridges. The short action vs long action alone isn't enough difference to matter.

My personal experience is with 300 WSM, but the principle applies to all of them. I could load 300 WSM to within 50 fps of 300 WM, but with 10-15 gr less powder. The combination of less powder and slightly less speed results in recoil that exactly splits the difference between 30-06 and 300 WM in the same weight rifle. OR, I could put together a 300 WSM that weighed 7.5 lbs that recoiled exactly the same as an 8.5 lb 300 WM.

The purpose of the WSM's was to be able to have a lighter weight mountain rifle with performance that was about 98% of 300WM, but with manageable recoil. A 7.5 lb scoped 300 WM will get your attention. A 7.5 lb 300 WSM is much more pleasant to shoot.

I don't think the 300 or 270 WSM will be going under. The 7mm WSM might well be the best of the bunch, but it's introduction was delayed for about a year after the other 2. They had enough of a head start that it never caught up. I can see it going under. The 300 WSM shoots the same bullet weigths as 325 WSM to exactly the same speed. But the 30's have MUCH better BC"s and beat the 325 easily. I never did figure out why they ever offered that one.

I never really though that any of the short mags would survive. The long range crowd seem to like the 300 so theres hope for it. The others, not so much. My Son built a 300 and shot it for a while, got tired of it and put it up for sale. It shot so well, 1/2in, that I could no stand to see it go and bought it. Its built like a tactical rifle, not your typical hunting rifle. AMU contour Krieger barrel, McMillan stock, Jewel trigger and a Holland firing pin. Its now my rifle of choice when I can ride up close to a deer stand and sit. I buy a hundred cases evertime I see them on sale. I've killed Coyotes with it out to 500 yards.

Just received the 270 WSM that Eddie Fosnaugh built for me. Rem 700 SA with a 25” Hart magnum sporter barrel + Hawkins muzzle brake, Jewell trigger, HS precision stock and bottom metal. Shot a box of Federal factory stuff through it yesterday to begin breaking her in. Going to start load development this weekend with 150 gr Bergers.

That is a beauty did he paint the stock

The WSMs were reported to have problems feeding thus the reason Winchester came out with what was called the Controlled Round Push Feed to help with that. I have a few rifles that shoot belted cases and have never experienced any problems with them.
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Control feed was around in 1898 Mauser.

Man, Eddie does not fugg around. What a beauty

Lampson. Nice rifle. Let us know how it shoots. Really nice finish work. If it shoots as good as it looks you’v got a keeper.

This.

Nice rifle!

Incredible.

The stock is actually a factory paint job. I purchased it from Red Hawk Rifles, and had them ship it to Eddie. This is my third rifle that I've had Eddie build, the others are a 7mm Rem and 300 Win. Both are crazy tack drivers, and I expect this one will do the same!

He did a stand up job on that rifle. What does it weigh?

So it’s 2020 and I know that Winchester Short Magnums have survived. Especially the 300wsm. One thing is certain, I know two 325wsm rifles will survive in my safe, and the family I give them to, when my time in this world is up. I have enough brass to last two lifetimes. I’m also very confident there are others that will continue to own wissums. Ammo and components are available. 300 wsm has strong sales. A simple barrel swap from one wissum to another makes the family of short mags somewhat interesting. And they all have notable, if not outstanding performance.There’s so many more great things I can say but I’ll leave it at that.

Yeah I heard that one too. LMAO. But that L Delta issue has not affected my Kimber SuperAmerica nor my Browning ABolt. I have yet to have a misfeed on either rifle and both are smooth as silk. Each has 250 rounds through them without issue. Believe half of what you see and less of what you hear. Some people really make me laugh.

Looks like a Pollack splatter job. Amazing how people now pay millions for his work. Go figure- lol.

I don’t think the 270 or 300 will die out. Two great cartridges

I absolutely LOVE my Winchester 70 Featherweight in 270 WSM!

It looks beautiful, functions perfectly, and is super accurate using Nosler 140 AB and RL-19.