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It's not up for a "vote."

It's a personal decision, and nobody's business but your own.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
It's not up for a "vote."

It's a personal decision, and nobody's business but your own.


There is no making you happy, you just have to bitch about something. I can’t imagine going for a nice walk in the wilderness and then listen to you bitch about it.


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I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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You have a great sig line. Where did I post that? I would like to have the original framed.

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Originally Posted by HitnRun
Originally Posted by smokepole
It's not up for a "vote."

It's a personal decision, and nobody's business but your own.


There is no making you happy, you just have to bitch about something. I can’t imagine going for a nice walk in the wilderness and then listen to you bitch about it.



Be careful around bridge, tunnels, or anywhere there is the slightest echo. You will drive yourself crazy, 'cuz when it comes to bitchin' you're the bitch's bitch...

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Originally Posted by HitnRun
Originally Posted by smokepole
It's not up for a "vote."

It's a personal decision, and nobody's business but your own.


There is no making you happy, you just have to bitch about something. I can’t imagine going for a nice walk in the wilderness and then listen to you bitch about it.


LOL, you and Handy are the ones bitching about BHA, and trying to tell everyone which organizations they should support.

Minding everyone else's business like a couple of old women with nothing better to do. You need a nice walk, it'll clear your head.



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The all knowing self righteous lord of the wilderness snobs/lemmings hath spoken. All hail the great polesmoker

Heaven forbid someone point out the irony of who gives bha money. You know, like the guy that openly opposed what just passed in Wyoming.

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No worries Jackson. I would tell you to take a few midol and it'll pass, but I don't think midol works fort post-menopausal women.



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Hey smoke, you might try one of those midol. It seems you take every opposing viewpoint on wilderness personally.

Unfortunate to be so angry with public access advocates.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
No worries Jackson. I would tell you to take a few midol and it'll pass, but I don't think midol works fort post-menopausal women.


You would know old timer. Have fun at water aerobics....

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Originally Posted by Backroads
Hey smoke, you might try one of those midol. It seems you take every opposing viewpoint on wilderness personally.

Unfortunate to be so angry with public access advocates.


I have no quarrel with public access advocates. It's a**holes I'm opposed to.

And I'm not angry. I save that for important stuff, not trolls like Jackson.

Why do you and handy feel it necessary to put words in others' mouths, tell others what they're opposed to, and tell others which organizations they should support?

Don't you you have enough of your own stuff to tend to?



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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Originally Posted by smokepole
No worries Jackson. I would tell you to take a few midol and it'll pass, but I don't think midol works fort post-menopausal women.


You would know old timer. Have fun at water aerobics....


LOL, you couldn't keep up with me junior.



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Well, I see the discussion has continued.
:"Liquidation of public lands?"
That's a completely false narrative. You're not going to see en bloc sales of public lands to the private sector anytime soon, for at least two reasons:
Number one, there are no corporations interested. The evil timber industry no longer exists, the large corps are now all REITs focused on profit through real-estate management with timber an incidental. Then, the fact is, the recreational RE market isn't that big. Average wages still stink, so there are a relatively few people who are interested in starter castles on big chunks of forest. No customers there.
Number two. No matter who you are, public land in large chunks, where you don't have to hunt down the owner to ask permission, is a widely supported concept. Even if the customers were there, the public won't support massive sales that would anyway dent the larger ownership. Only in the case of close-in, isolated, or swappable lands could you expect sale -- and that would probably have to have an acre-for-acre factor that the public finds acceptable or favorable.
But liquidation as a narrative is a total effing lie. A Goebbels-style Big Lie aimed at the gullible by the dishonest. It just deflects from the real issue, which is the allocation of purposes on public lands -- set aside for a selfish elite (wilderness and roadless) or the greatest good over the long run (multiple use).

And Beretta says he doesn't CARE if Soros gives a zillion to RMEF? Precisely the problem. Soros, and his spawn, are fiscal rapists who could care less about American principles or values. America just happens to be where the money is, not counting his skinning off Asian capital 20 years ago. Then you need to understand that Soros is not an idealist by any stretch of the imagination. He gives to further HIS causes and expects results from his funding, results he cares about. What are they? Not what you want, or what RMEF wants.

Never mind that RMEF did support wolves for a while, while accepting granting funds from the usual suspects of Green Incorporated. There was a house cleaning of the board and the membership when the full effects of wolf predation became obvious to all, as did the politics of wolf repopulation.


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Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
Well, I see the discussion has continued.


Actually it was dead. But it's clear that you' like it to continue. "You go, girl."



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
Well, I see the discussion has continued.


Actually it was dead. But it's clear that you' like it to continue. "You go, girl."



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Dave_Skinner
Well, I see the discussion has continued.


Actually it was dead. But it's clear that you' like it to continue. "You go, girl."


Wow, thats next level pompous azzhole, quoting yourself being a dick....impressive

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Thanks for the compliment, I was really concerned about your take on all this.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Thanks for the compliment, I was really concerned about your take on all this.


Obviously. How were the old folks down at the aqua center today?

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I've used Aqua Velva, but never been to an "aqua center." What is that?



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The discussion will die about the time BHA does. Hope it's soon.


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BHA will die when people no longer value wide open spaces or unspoiled landscapes.

Or when you have something substantive to say, which will probably be in the same time frame.



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