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I thought it would sell better than the 17 HMR...
using the same logic the 22 LR outsells the 22 Win Mag...
however I was wrong...
but for myself, I'd prefer the 17 Mach 2, vs the HMR....
but ammo availability kinda screwed that thought up...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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I have a super accurate Ruger 77/17. It is my favorite squirrel rifle. I have more rounds than I will ever shoot, but still am on the waiting list for the next production where I will buy another brick or two, just in case my grandkids like it. I think it’s to fine a cartridge to go the way of the 5mm, which as stated above it will probably go. When that happens they can rebarrel it to a .22.
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I had one in a cz 452.
My young son could shoot sub moa groups with it off the bench at the gun range.
When I couldn't buy ammo anymore ,I sold it with the ammo I had.
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Not sure if I count as one who cares. The HMR has proved useful for turkeys and such but no experience at all with the Mach 2. I think the industry should cut back on all the other rimfire loads and concentrate on just the most practical. We have: 22 blank (several) 22 bb, 22 CB, 22 Short, 22 Long and 22 Long Rifle, 22 shot in several versions, 22 plastic bullet, 22 nail gun, and then 22 magnum, and many zipper or special loadings of each, why do we need all of these? I thought the 5mm Rem. was a good design. Did the metric name kill it or the cost and availability of ammo?
The Mach 2 is very useful for low noise and low ricochet applications around suburban areas etc. Ideal for tree and ground rats of all types. If more popular, ammo could sell for about the same as 22RF. Will it make it? I doubt it.
Oh and it could be good in pistols too. The 22 Mag is too much especially with no ear muffs but the Mach 2 would not be too bad even in a revolver with wearing ear plugs only.
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I love mine but I predict it to die hard....volosity always sells...and the 17 hmr will be the choice for most...I have a contender carbine with both 17 barrels...I never use the HMR....the hm2 get a lot of starlings and critters around the farm.. I went so far as making my 77-22 alwether a switch barrel in hm2. Also did a rebarrel on an old rem target master in 17 hm2. Those both shoot really good..
Ammo prices are the doom....when I did these rifles I scored a ton of ammo cheap and have about 8 k rds left...
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Ammo prices are the doom.... yup....that about sums t up....the .22 LR at $.05 and the Mach 2 at $.17.....three and a half times as much.....
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I bought a Marlin 917M2 when they first came out. I must have got a lemon, because mine didn't shoot for crap. I have a Marlin HMR that shoots so well you'd call me a liar if I told you just how good it is.
Mine wouldn't shoot Hornady, CCI, or Eley, worth a crap. I sold it to a guy at work who absolutely loves it, but his expectations are lower than mine. I had shot another Marlin that was under MOA, mine was not. I don't miss the thing at all, or the cartridge, frankly.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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The problem I'm afraid is it really won't do much more than a 22 rf....but it has a nich...I love mine....a rebarreled a rem target master for sage rats...resigned an old 10-22 barrel and fit it up on my Ruger 77-22 for a switch barrel rifle....I bought up a ton of ammo when it was still cheap so I'm good for awhile...also have barrels for the contender carbine in both h2 and Hmr....never shoot the Hmr...too expensive
And what will it do a hornet won't...
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have 4K rds in my stash
at an 80% hit ratio..........
thats another 3200 dead p/dogs
awesome short range dog gun
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Ammo prices are the doom.... yup....that about sums t up....the .22 LR at $.05 and the Mach 2 at $.17.....three and a half times as much..... had a buddy get outta the 17M2 business.......... traded him rd for rd for 22LR/17M2......... 3K rds.......what a deal...........
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Ruger 77......... Lilja M2 barrel ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/RD5UDDh.jpg)
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Ruger 77/22 sporter with a M2 GM fluted stainless.... ![[Linked Image]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/922/T8Aocm.jpg)
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Luv that pic !!!!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ your tired Pumpkin cat......... 
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Ruger 77/22 sporter with a M2 GM fluted stainless.... Pheasant population coming back around here my M2 has removed many pheasant egg & chick eaters........ long live the M2.....or at least my 4K rd stash
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if a cat is more than 100 yds from his house....... its a feral.........bye bye
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