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I have a ruger sr1911. I have been told that if I installed a wilson combat one piece guide rod it would make an already accurate pistol even better? What say you 1911 experts?
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No, it will not; save you money for more meaningful things in life.
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One piece guide rods for the 1911 are nothing less than camel droppings.
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No use for it in my guns...
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I have a couple. The posters who doubt their worth might just be right. But what the hell, I bought a couple of Wilson one-piecers.
I can't discern accuracy difference with or w/o guide rods.
If you have the inclination and a few extra bucks to spend, there might be something to be gained from one-piece experience.
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I have a dozen 1911's including Wilson & Christensen..............neither of which came with a full length guide rod.
I've shot enough with & w/o & there's just no real measurable difference in accuracy with a FL rod, & they are royal PIA to disassemble with a FL rod as well.
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What about the one piece recoil buffers like from Springco?
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One piece guide rods are a co plate waste of money.
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Change in accuracy? No. The bullet has left the barrel before the slide has started its recoil movement. A few more ounces up front helps if you're trying to reduce your rapid fire splits by a few tenths/hundredths of a second.
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No, a bud told me an old story of a guy that dropped his [non-functioning] 1911 off to Mr. Clark one day on his lunch hour, the guy came back and ask, "where's my new one piece guide rod?" "In that can with the rest of the trash, said Mr. Clark" was what I heard.
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I don't see one-piece 1911 guide rods as an accuracy improvement, but they work fine in numerous other pistol designs. The only accuracy improving 1911 spring guide, with which I am familiar, was the Dwyer Group Gripper. https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Group-Gripper-Kit-Government/productinfo/12G/
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I have a dozen 1911's including Wilson & Christensen..............neither of which came with a full length guide rod.
I've shot enough with & w/o & there's just no real measurable difference in accuracy with a FL rod, & they are royal PIA to disassemble with a FL rod as well.
MM ^^^This post is dead on balls accurate, an industry term used by experts like Mona Lisa Vito^^^
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Ask me & I'd say go the bushing route.
But a one-piecer could be useful to have among stuff that's rarely -if ever- used.
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There are some things Mr Browning did that can be improved today. Sights, no pinch hammer and beavertails. (Modest) Slightly bigger slide release, safety. Opened ejection port.
The bushing system is not one of those.
Really amazing to consider that the 1911 was at the beginning of auto pistol designs, and is so good by today's standards. Really, a gun from 1911 would be great with just better sights.
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No, a bud told me an old story of a guy that dropped his [non-functioning] 1911 off to Mr. Clark one day on his lunch hour, the guy came back and ask, "where's my new one piece guide rod?" "In that can with the rest of the trash, said Mr. Clark" was what I heard. And Mr. Clark knew his way around the 1911 as well as anyone. (Far better than most.)
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No, a bud told me an old story of a guy that dropped his [non-functioning] 1911 off to Mr. Clark one day on his lunch hour, the guy came back and ask, "where's my new one piece guide rod?" "In that can with the rest of the trash, said Mr. Clark" was what I heard. And Mr. Clark knew his way around the 1911 as well as anyone. (Far better than most.) My old Bud went on the reiterate your last line too my Friend!
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Ask me & I'd say go the bushing route.
Not sure what you mean by that comment, but using a one piece guide rod does not eliminate a barrel bushing except in the case of a short barreled gun with a bull barrel which by design, has no barrel bushing. MM
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That's a normal, stock, 1911 spring guide rod; that's not a bushing & it doesn't replace a bushing either. A spring plug goes on the other end of it & locks into place below the bushing & into the slide. No idea what you are trying to convey with your original comment as one piece guide rods require a barrel bushing except on short guns with a bull barrel. These are pics of barrel bushings.............................. Barrel BushingsMM
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