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I see some are starting to use detachable magazines. I bought a 700 on Gunbroker and changed mine back to "old" style BDL again.
There's a 264 700 on Gunbroker right now. If it wasn't an after marker detachable magazine I'd be all over it. What's your opinion on detachable magazines.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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The tacticool ones are stupid. The tikka/savage etc are ok if you like that style. I prefer an adl. Nothing to break or goof up when I need it.
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I have one rifle with and one without. less things to lose or go wrong without.
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Went praire dog shooting , friends son dropped detach-mag down a PD hole within the first few minutes - no spare magazine .
I read how some competitions go through an unloading process during a Match and ADL/BDL bottom metal doesn't cut it , so DBM is the ticket . Me I'm a hunter so DBM is something to chance losing . I like the flush bottom metal BDL but prefer the ADL above all .
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I have always figured that was just something to lose. Either that, or something to have trouble putting in if in a hurry.
A fixed magazine has never, not a single time in more than fifty years, not held enough. Always had a few left in there when the excitement died down.
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I could appreciate a quality DM setup, especially if I'm driving my vehicle to multiple glassing spots. Quicker and easier to load the rifle after getting out of the truck. Not a huge deal, more of a convenience.
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I prefer a floor plate. But the sako 85 mags are top notch compared to many on the market today.
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I used to have a negative view of them. Until I bought a rifle that used them and found that most of the things I worried about would never happen. I've since bought more. A few things I've learned. It makes it less expensive to manufacture an accurate rifle. The detachable magazines are a big reason why we see less expensive rifles like Tikka, Ruger American, TC Encore, Savage Axis, and others that shoot better than many rifles costing double. Not having to get the stock to fit perfectly around an internal magazine is part of it. Having a solid top makes the action stiffer, and those can't be top loaded requiring a detachable magazine..
I'm not concerned about mag capacity on a bolt gun. In fact the standard Tikka magazine or the AI style magazines used on the Ruger Predators only hold 3 rounds. Both companies make 5 round magazines that don't protrude far enough to be a problem to me. The single stack 10 round mags start to be a problem. My Tikka CTR came with a 10 round double stack magazine. Once I got used to it, it isn't a problem.
The downside is the cost of spare magazines, and I'd not own a gun that took detachable mags and not have spares. The Ruger and Tikka T-3 mags run $35-$40 each which is way more than they should sell for. If I can buy an AR magazine for $13 there is no reason for them to charge that much. But considering the money saved on the rifle helps offset that to a degree. The CTR magazines can be $100+ from some sources, I bought one spare for $70.
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I like the detachable magazines that the Tikka T3 comes with. Have hunted with the T3 for many years and never had any problem whatsoever.
Recently I carry two different magazines loaded with different bullets at least with one rifle. I have one magazine loaded with 130 accubonds that are my out to 400 yds load and my spare carries 147 eld hornadies that I use for 400 to 700 yds. Easy to do with detachable mags.....not so easy without. My 130 accubond load and 147 eld load hit almost identical out to 500 yds
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I must admit I have thoughts about this issue. let me see , last count I have 3 with detachable not counting ar's and a batch of handguns. so I guess put me on the + side. I have had my first steyr sense about1975 or so. still have the original mag and the 3 others I got for , just in case! yep, put in the for them side.
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I don't much care for them in general myself, but have somehow managed to acquire a couple rifles so-equipped lately because of other factors in their favor, including a Howa Mini I picked up Saturday. Already have plans to improve one of them by sending it to an outfit that will shorten it and reconfigure the guard.
I'd be much less opposed to ones that fit flush, load from the top, and allow single-loading easily.
All this is for my use, of course. Everyone needs to decide what works best for themselves. One size doesn't always fit all.
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Have all three (ADL, BDL and DBM). I prefer the round bottom to "palm" a rifle as well. So, the only DBM I have are first gen HS Precision with the flush bottom magazines. The easy solution to losing a DBM Mag in the field is to ensure that you have more than one with you. Have at least 3 magazines for each DBM rifle that I own. Take at least two with me when I go into the field.
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Get an AR if you want to be able to shoot a bunch of shots. I say that and I have two Savages with 10 round magazines. Both 6.5 Creedmoor’
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It shouldn't surprise anyone that the traditional guys will say they don't like them.
The fact they have likely never handled a hunting rifle with an aics dbm makes it funny.
I dig the couple sporter builds I've done with them. Super handy and allowed for some COAL flexibility.
They aint for everyone most certainly, but I'd bet money some of you guys would change your minds if you actually got to handle a nicely done build with one.
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I have 7 rifles with DM's. I like them.
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I used to have a negative view of them. Until I bought a rifle that used them and found that most of the things I worried about would never happen. I've since bought more.
I'm not concerned about mag capacity on a bolt gun. In fact the standard Tikka magazine or the AI style magazines used on the Ruger Predators only hold 3 rounds.
Yep. I’ve been using DMs for MANY yrs. first on 22 r f then on C Fs. I’ve never dropped one. I’ve never left one at home or elsewhere. The mag STAYS in the rifle. It’s quicker to UNload a rifle and MUCH safer than cycling rounds thru the action. I DEtest blind mags. I like the detachable magazines that the Tikka T3 comes with. Have hunted with the T3 for many years and never had any problem whatsoever. I don’t buy Xtra capacity mags. I don’t need Xtra rounds in the rifle. Jerry
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I like the detachable magazines that the Tikka T3 comes with. Have hunted with the T3 for many years and never had any problem whatsoever.
Recently I carry two different magazines loaded with different bullets at least with one rifle. I have one magazine loaded with 130 accubonds that are my out to 400 yds load and my spare carries 147 eld hornadies that I use for 400 to 700 yds. Easy to do with detachable mags.....not so easy without. My 130 accubond load and 147 eld load hit almost identical out to 500 yds
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It shouldn't surprise anyone that the traditional guys will say they don't like them.
The fact they have likely never handled a hunting rifle with an aics dbm makes it funny.
I dig the couple sporter builds I've done with them. Super handy and allowed for some COAL flexibility.
They aint for everyone most certainly, but I'd bet money some of you guys would change your minds if you actually got to handle a nicely done build with one. Agree, I have both kinds of rifles but the DBM does give more options certainly. Neither style is gonna make or break a hunt. I can always single feed as a last resort, its not like I am going home without a game animal if you lose a mag if I had a single feed rifle. Heck some guys somehow get it done with a muzzle loader or bow and arrow. I'll take the extra COAL allowances I get from DBM without binder plates as well.
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You do realize you don't need to fully chamber rounds to unload a blind magazine, right?
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