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I ordered stock Wilson parts to replace the one piece stuff that came in my early model Kimber.
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One piece guide rods are a co plate waste of money.
...and a pain in the neck to deal with if you ignore all the advice & get one anyway. Don't ask me how I know that.
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One piece guide rods are a co plate waste of money.
...and a pain in the neck to deal with if you ignore all the advice & get one anyway. Don't ask me how I know that. Some of the full length guide rods can be a pain to disassemble, but others that are the correct length make disassembly exactly the same as the original configuration. I don't know why some manufacturers make them hard to disassemble, but I think it's the length of the rod that is the problem. Sorry I don't remember a brand name from the versions I used that worked right though, it's been too many years.
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Montana Man,
If you're 1911-A1 adept, which I am assumed you were, you'd of known that that recoil spring guide can be used only with an original-design 1911-A1 bushing.
I shouldn't have had to elaborate. You should have intuitively known it.
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I don't dislike one-piecers. Sig uses them on its P series handguns. However, on 1911-A1, they're more of a POA than anything, especially bushing removal. I can't say that a one-piecer makes a 1911-A1 more accurate or less reliable. But I can say that they'll create bushing removal pains
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Montana Man,
If you're 1911-A1 adept, which I am assumed you were, you'd of known that that recoil spring guide can be used only with an original-design 1911-A1 bushing.
I shouldn't have had to elaborate. You should have intuitively known it. You don't know WTF you're talking about. A standard bushing is also used with a one piece guide rod; the only difference is that the spring plug has a hole in it for the on piece guide rod to move through. Last comment to you. MM
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Montana Man,
If you're 1911-A1 adept, which I am assumed you were, you'd of known that that recoil spring guide can be used only with an original-design 1911-A1 bushing.
I shouldn't have had to elaborate. You should have intuitively known it. You don't know WTF you're talking about. A standard bushing is also used with a one piece guide rod; the only difference is that the spring plug has a hole in it for the on piece guide rod to move through. Last comment to you. MM The standard bushing is solid. For a one-piece guide rod to fit the bushing has to have a hole in it the size of the guide rod.
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MontanaMan,
One fallacy in your post: a guide rod hole in a bushing makes it non-standard. A standard bushing in fully enclosed.
Other than that we're good-to-go.
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Montana Man,
If you're 1911-A1 adept, which I am assumed you were, you'd of known that that recoil spring guide can be used only with an original-design 1911-A1 bushing.
I shouldn't have had to elaborate. You should have intuitively known it. You don't know WTF you're talking about. A standard bushing is also used with a one piece guide rod; the only difference is that the spring plug has a hole in it for the on piece guide rod to move through. Last comment to you. MM The standard bushing is solid. For a one-piece guide rod to fit the bushing has to have a hole in it the size of the guide rod. You're talking about the recoil spring plug...........& yes, it has a hole as I said. The barrel BUSHING does not change whether the recoil spring guide is standard short or one piece. The is only one BUSHING & that is the BARREL bushing; the piece that goes onto the end of the recoil spring is called a SPRING PLUG. It is not a BUSHING.
These are spring plugs, both standard & one with an open end for use with one piece spring guides. Recoil Spring PlugsMM
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Montana Man,
If you're 1911-A1 adept, which I am assumed you were, you'd of known that that recoil spring guide can be used only with an original-design 1911-A1 bushing.
I shouldn't have had to elaborate. You should have intuitively known it. And, if you were literate you would have known better than to say “you’d of”.
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MontanaMan,
One fallacy in your post: a guide rod hole in a bushing makes it non-standard. A standard bushing in fully enclosed.
Other than that we're good-to-go. MontanaMan is right. You and Magnumdood are confusing a barrel bushing with a spring plug. The barrel bushing has nothing to do with whether you use a short or full length guide rod. If you're going to try to argue about this stuff, at least use the right names so people know what you're trying to say.
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Montana Man,
If you're 1911-A1 adept, which I am assumed you were, you'd of known that that recoil spring guide can be used only with an original-design 1911-A1 bushing.
I shouldn't have had to elaborate. You should have intuitively known it. And, if you were literate you would have known better than to say “you’d of”. I'm not literate.
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To borrow a phrase that Col. Cooper used when describing the DA auto pistol, "it is an ingenious solution to a nonexistent problem". Ditto for guide rods.
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MontanaMan,
One fallacy in your post: a guide rod hole in a bushing makes it non-standard. A standard bushing in fully enclosed.
Other than that we're good-to-go. MontanaMan is right. You and Magnumdood are confusing a barrel bushing with a spring plug. The barrel bushing has nothing to do with whether you use a short or full length guide rod. If you're going to try to argue about this stuff, at least use the right names so people know what you're trying to say. I stand corrected by one of the gun specific vocabulary correction specialists. Wow.
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MontanaMan,
One fallacy in your post: a guide rod hole in a bushing makes it non-standard. A standard bushing in fully enclosed.
Other than that we're good-to-go. MontanaMan is right. You and Magnumdood are confusing a barrel bushing with a spring plug. The barrel bushing has nothing to do with whether you use a short or full length guide rod. If you're going to try to argue about this stuff, at least use the right names so people know what you're trying to say. I stand corrected by one of the gun specific vocabulary correction specialists. Wow. You both were just wrong and neither of you can accept it. Wow is right.
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You both were just wrong and neither of you can accept it. Wow is right. What part of "I stand corrected" has you confused? If it's simple enough I'll try to talk you through the meaning of what I said.
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You would have been ok but then you said this
"by one of the gun specific vocabulary correction specialists. Wow"
I'm not the one confused.
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You would have been ok but then you said this
"by one of the gun specific vocabulary correction specialists. Wow"
I'm not the one confused. I believe you are. "I stand corrected" is not changed even a little bit by the following description of who corrected me. You may not like that it followed my admission of being wrong, but it didn't change the fact, at all, that I admitted I was wrong and stood corrected.
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No, it will not; save you money for more meaningful things in life.
MM Heard the same by the top AMU amorer back lots of years. My bullseye gun shoots less than 2” at 50 yards with match at 50 yards. Standard guide rod. Built by Jack Maple.
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Words mean things!
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