Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters I need a straight answer........

That's what we're here for.

By Campfire standards this thread stayed on subject. Not once were you told you need a new rifle, in a new caliber, or told you were gay or a homophobic for asking a straight question.

Spot on. All things considered we were on our best behavior. It can be a lot different. You omitted rebedding and a new scope.

Somebody will be along soon to tell you your test is invalid because you didn't use 100 shot groups, when they will have performed no such testing at all.

I gave up on all that crap. I could never figure out why/how I could load a batch of ammo that went from 0 to >.008 on the same set up. It's Remington's problem now....or Hornady....or Federal...or whatever is on sale.

I'm of a similar mind. I'm grateful for all the effort others have gone to to show the benefit of reducing runout. It has helped me make better ammo, but I'm not about to start 100% checking or culling for runout. Nearly all of my shooting is at 200 yd. or less. That beyond 200 is at paper and steel. My time is better spent reducing much greater errors from my shooting than correcting what 16bore has shown.

I still enjoy "all that crap." I've got my equipment and set up worked out so if the assembled cartridge runout is over .003" it's a lock that the particular piece of brass has so-so neck walls.

I need to reduce the "runout" in my offhand shooting.

Not poo pooing it really...just went sorta minimalist with my stuff. You certainly shoot more as a handloader and learn your way around a bullet. Two weeks of deer season, maybe some odd trips here and there, and pinging steel is about all I do anymore. And clays. Hell, I put a 22LR top end on my 1911 and forgot what 45 ACP feels like. Ha!

Reckon I'll change my handle to "16 Bored"......especially now that I'm schlepping a 270 and factory fodder.

Not my area but a question for the precision shooters. If the dies are set up properly and you are still seeing excessive run out doesn't that indicate a case problem? Correct me if I am wrong but even if you turn the necks won't inconsistent case wall thickness in the body of the case add run out on each firing? I know the dies will align the neck but won't if be a recurring problem?

Agree straightened cases will shoot with ones that started with low run out but isn't it better to cull the out of line cases?

Really bad case bodies do cause trouble as well.

IME it depends on how much straightening it took.

Sometimes, you just have those days where nothing goes right.....223AI, Lapua brass, Reddings. Ray Charles called and said I had some runout issues. Don't know what he was talking about.

Do you have a pic of the bottom ends of those same two rounds?

That ship sailed a long, long time ago....

I asked because I've dealt with a couple of "fat bottomed" chambers and runout. If there's a noticeable expansion ring just forward of the web area you're almost always going to see runout in assembled cartridges unless the body section of the die is tight near the bottom and goes well down to the extractor groove of the case.

Inane attempt at humor.

Please fix that.

More inanity.