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I'd think one would have a sensation of his head imploding every time a round was fired. That had to have hurt, and he'll most certainly file for a hearing disability in the near future. As a stupid kid, I once fired a round through the open rear window of a station wagon from the driver's seat. Rest assured, I will never do that again.
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I would think that reckless or not,I don't know of anyone of us that wouldn't be shooting back as fast and good as we could if we were being shot at. Yea,in I might be responsible for every round but the main thing going through someone's mind right then is surviving,not to hold back because someone could get hurt. thats interesting, that cop fired 30 rounds...now what if a person with their family had police rounds whiz past and hit some of their family, would you consider that a threat you are entitled to give an armed respond to?...first utmost priority is to look after yer family... hence neutralise ANY imminent threat as best and as rapidly as one can.....or does that liberty only apply to cops? I doubt cops would be too happy or understanding if you hit and killed one of theirs when just trying to look after your family. do you think LE would refrain from attempting to prosecute you? now keep in mind... cops will approach the wrong home with a no-knock warrant and shoot dead the totally innocent resident for simply trying to protect himself from an invasive threat...and police will argue to the judge that their actions were totally justified.
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He may have to ask people to repeat themselves from now on, but they won't be planning his funeral tomorrow. When the gunfight starts, the only thing that matters is that you WIN. Good job. He didnt hide in a stairwell or outside the school.
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I know the New Jersey state Police practice shooting left handed oot the drivers side window while going in reverse! Done while practicing night shooting. Why would you shoot your windshield out when it's the only thing protecting you? If I can shoot burrets through my windshield, from inside, exactly what is it protecting me from inbound from the outside? He may be a democrat.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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I don't know that it's taught but it makes perfect sense to fire through a soft barrier to hit something on the other side.
spencer and starman should less time spooning with one another.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I don't know that it's taught but it makes perfect sense to fire through a soft barrier to hit something on the other side.
spencer and starman should less time spooning with one another. It is taught in my training classes.
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I wrote that poorly.
I was trying to say I don't know if that cop or other cops I've seen recently were taught to do it or just did it instinctively.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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We trained for shooting through windshields at the Sheriff's Office here in Florida. Of course it is a last ditched effort to save yourself, but it works! You need to at least try and send all the rounds through the same hole in the windshield, but it can be done with accuracy. One of the instructors was easily able to hit steel targets at 15 meters consistently. If someone is approaching your vehicle and firing at you....shooting back through the windshield works!
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In the heat of a gun battle, the cop's not going to take the time to Mirandize someone intent on killing him.
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thats interesting, that cop fired 30 rounds...now what if a person with their family had police rounds whiz past and hit some of their family,
would you consider that a threat you are entitled to give an armed respond to?...first utmost priority is to look after yer family... hence neutralise ANY imminent threat as best and as rapidly as one can.....or does that liberty only apply to cops?
I doubt cops would be too happy or understanding if you hit and killed one of theirs when just trying to look after your family. do you think LE would refrain from attempting to prosecute you?
now keep in mind... cops will approach the wrong home with a no-knock warrant and shoot dead the totally innocent resident for simply trying to protect himself from an invasive threat...and police will argue to the judge that their actions were totally justified.
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In the heat of a gun battle, the cop's not going to take the time to Mirandize someone intent on killing him. One of the dudes' names was Miranda. He exercised his right to remain silent.
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In the heat of a gun battle, the cop's not going to take the time to Mirandize someone intent on killing him. Whoooooooooosh!
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The officer responded great and using two hands with a sight picture is so much smarter than some hanging an arm out the window movie bs.
The reload was fine too. Adrenaline pumping, talk on the radio, yell at suspects, seat belt, car in park or neutral, door open, eject mag, reload, work the slide all while keeping focus on two bad guys.
I realize many people run dry runs in their brain and do it flawless and smooth every time...welcome to REALITY.
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I'd think one would have a sensation of his head imploding every time a round was fired. That had to have hurt, and he'll most certainly file for a hearing disability in the near future. As a stupid kid, I once fired a round through the open rear window of a station wagon from the driver's seat. Rest assured, I will never do that again.
you don't even think about any of that when you are in a fight.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Mirandized?......really? Obviously someone doesn't know Dik about the law!
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Seems like it could make driving more difficult if you completely spider web the windshield in front of you while driving..
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Aim low when shooting through a windshield. Don't worry about your hearing or spiderwebs, put the threat down.
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people that text all day get on my nerves
just knowing that people are out there with that ability,....just makes me wanna punch myself in the balls
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Aim low when shooting through a windshield. Don't worry about your hearing or spiderwebs, put the threat down. I agree, when not driving. Could make it a little hard to continue a high speed pursuit when you can't see (driving), though.
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Mirandized?......really? Obviously someone doesn't know Dik about the law!
Ron Do you know the name of the ones that were shot........................ did you read the article???? Sheeeeesh, some of this group is a bit obtuse................. Or maybe my attempt at a little levity was too cryptic............ Ernest Arturo Miranda( the guy from Arizona, the guy in the LANDMARK SCOTUS RULING) - 'you have the right to, yadda, yadda, yadda.........' OR Fidel Miranda (THE GUY IN THE ARTICLE, THE GUY IN THE CAR, THE GUY THAT GOT SHOT) - Bam, Bam.....bambambam,....Bam, Bam.................. Rant - OFF It's probably MY fault..................
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