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There's 3-4 coyote pups playing in my backyard every morning around 6:30 am about 150 yards from the house. They're fun to watch, but I don't really like them back there. Should I just let them be, or try to get rid of them? They're not that wary and wouldn't be too hard to shoot from my porch.

They'll be gone in a few weeks to dine on fawns for several years, your call.

Bang, bang, bang, bang - there's a solution.

Enjoy them.

You would save a lot of fawns by eliminating them

Capture them, tame them and learn their ways.


The intelligence gathered would go a long ways in the never ending struggle between Man and Coyote.


If that dont work you could teach them to do tricks and take your show on the road.

Give them an "ACME Products" catalog, a picture of a Road Runner, and then let nature take its course.

I think man tried that with women.................

Jim Conrad, et. al.,

OR you could take a page out of the Lacey family's book & create a new dog breed by crossing-in their coyote DNA.

Fwiw, our "official TX state dog" is a dog/coyote hybrid. = The TEXAS BLUE LACEY.

yours, tex

at my place I`d use those live pups for bait to shoot momma coyote then kill them too.

trap, neuter, release.

That way someone on the fire call tell you, "I was worried about those coyotes eating my deer, not raping them..."

That's the direction I'd go. Plus I've got a new .223 to bloody.

i'd leave them alone, they eventually will wander.
coyotes got to eat too.

Bye bye quail and pheasants.

I thought you dudes were more fearful of those dreaded 6lb orange tabbies in the condo next door.

Pups turn into adults
Shoot em!

Choot ‘em

And Turkeys, deer, rabbits any small domestic critters and even dogs....your yard, your call, but when they kill something you don't want them to, it's on you...

They don't get a pass either....there's a reason predators used to have bounties put on em.....Love your cat??? Keep it in/on your own fuggin property....

Enjoy the show, if you like watching them.

That is unless you have some domestic critters chickens or ducks.

I was gonna say something about getting four roadrunners to drive them crazy but you beat me to it.

Yep, don't let your mutt cross my property line either...cuz he's not coming home.

Youse guys must live too close to a Starbucks.


Run out of hand moisturizer and start talking about killing cats and dogs.

wouldn't last long in my back yard/field.........

every fawn or pheasant they could find they'll kill it......

Utah DWR will pay $50 head bounty.........nuf reason also.......

kill 'em........bastards took two deer outta my field over this past winter......

this pic.......200 yds from the back door..January

here's what they'll look like after you drop 'em

But there sooooooo cute!!!!

Jim, you were cute when you were a pup as well.

Little coyotes turn into big ones.

Some studies by biologists with A and M and TPW have registered fawn losses of up to 80%. In areas of the hill country in central and west central Texas where sheep and angora goats have historically been ranched the deer are highly over populated in many areas with some places having a deer/ 10 acres due to the sheep fences which keep most coyotes out and facilitate their snaring at fence crossings.

I know ranchers who routinely hire helicopter gunners the first minute they detect a coyote in one of their pastures whic may easily hold 5,000 acres.

In other areas of the state without protection the deer populations may drop as low a one per section.

https://www.realtree.com/deer-hunting/articles/how-coyotes-killed-deer-hunting

They enjoy ventilation... .224 size

There are always exceptions.

In a big way!

WVguy,

I stopped being "cute" when I was about 6 months old.

yours, tex

Cutest kid you ever did see.


The old women look on with sorrow when they remember. You were such a cute little boy............sigh.


The beautiful young duckling grew up to be the ugly-est damn swan.

Turkey buzzard maybe?

Yeah! Thats a bit closer!

That's the problem

Assuming it is legal to shoot them in the summer in Kansas, I'd shoot them. If not, don't take a chance at having your name in the paper as a coyote poacher.

+1

This was the 3rd pup. It took me until September to get him. I got the mom and the other two a week earlier. This one was with the 10/22M

And when they do grow up the hides are worth something. In the mean time I'd enjoy the pups though if that got out I'd likely lose some hunting permissions.

Coyote will come up into the field maybe 200 yards behind the house. I get to hear the pups but never see them. We still have bunnies, cats, turkeys in the yard and I can hear pheasants after they've had a good year and geese still inhabit the wet spots. We're marginal for pheasant production in this county.

I kill coyotes anytime, any age, any chance, never miss an opportunity. If I'm outside I've generally got a rifle with me. I raise goats so it's a big deal to me.

They aren't so cute when they're ripping the guts out of a fawn and letting it die slowly.

Yep, it's legal - 365 days a year.

I told my wife last week someone must have killed off the local coyote population here - we are overrun with rabbits, like 3 for every square block. Normally this time of year they are eradicated by predators.

I think the Coyotes wiped out the feral cats, and then the game department wiped out the coyotes so the rabbits are thriving this year.

Right!

Awful just Awful

This.

Not really even a decision to be made here in my opinion. If you have the opportunity to be the bigger predator then do so. YMMV

Couldn't agree more

It makes them wag their tails- a little while.

hell.............

even roll em with a 45 Colt..............

To All,

One wonders WHY the coyotes don't thin out the deer in our metropolitan San Antonio neighborhoods/parks. = Bexar County Animal Control states that, "- - - - - some parts of Bexar County have over 300 whitetail deer per square mile."
Also, the WT are literally "- - - - - stripping our city & county parks & green spaces of anything edible, as high as they can rear up & reach."
(Can I borrow a few dozen coyotes??)

Note: Several TMN here in SA/Bexar, have repeatedly requested that we be allowed to bring in archers to clear-out the WT to a manageable number but PETA & The Fund for Animals so strongly objected that the city/county councils refused our requests.

yours, tex
AAC, TMN

yotes in the hood

Coyotes take down a buck Image Gallary - Coyotes take down a buck.

Kind of laughable that anti-hunters think a hunter shooting a deer is cruel ... I'm sure the buck much prefers the terror of being surrounded, flanked and then being eaten before he's had a chance to expire.
A few pics here. See the gallery for all 11.

That's an ugly scene, thought they could only take down fawns and the weak/old....buck looks big and healthy.

"Nature in the raw is seldom mild." Lucky Strike, circa 1932

Is there anything more pitiful than a screaming rabbit in the middle of the night?

Yep, a myth typically propagated by anit-hunters and regurgitated by the ignorant who are often as not, hunters themselves.

Urban coyotes are too spoiled to hunt deer.

There's way too much garbage, cats, and small dogs for them to eat with much less effort.

Path of least resistance.

I'm a hardcore hunter, but we don't have yotes here.

^^^This^^^

They much prefer house cats and small fluffy little dogs.

I would also consider poisoned bait.

A suppressed AR is a possibility, but If you try to shoot them you'll get one but the others will scatter at the first shot, so poisoned bait might be the best option to try to get them all.

If the products are available to a homeowner, a local feed store would be a resource to talk to... that or contact wildlife regulators to find out what will work, but it sounds like you are in a good situation to minimize the chances of harming any off-target species.

Keep in mind that they could be gone tomorrow and the opportunity will be lost...maybe a few meatballs would keep them around longer.

Coyotes aren’t cruel. That’s just Nature being Nature. I got nothing against coyotes for just being coyotes.

That doesn’t stop me from killing every damn one I see. It’s not personal, Sonny. It’s strictly business.





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HIGHLY illegal.

The only "poison bait" that is legal for use is an M-44 device loaded with cyanide powder, once you are certified to possess and deploy the devices according to regulations.

Sure, I wouldn't want my post interpreted to suggest anything illegal, that's why I suggested to check with local wildlife regulators first to see what the legal options are in that locale.

I do recall reading articles discussing the use of various toxicants, and the approved use of the M-44 specifically, but yes, first contact local wildlife regulators to verify what the legal options are in your area.

Poison? That would take all the fun out of it. Have gun, will travel.

Shoot 'em with something light like a 416 Weatherby.

Yep or



This

Swan! That’s the image of the day! 😁

Caine Distemper?

The older I get, the more I hate seeing images like that. Predation (and suffering) is not kind.

It's funny how the same guys you hear talking about how stupid anti hunters are for thinking nature is like a Disney movie, yada, yada, are the same ones that find it disturbing with the methods coyotes employ to make a kill. I don't give a fug about coyotes ripping deer apart, that's what they were designed to do. Should they be carrying an aught-six slung across their backs?

The other one I have a hard time with is how they are wiping out the deer herds. I call bullshit on that one too. Yote's and deer have been coexisting for hundreds of thousands of years but now all of sudden the coyotes are going to drive them to extinction?

Lest someone misconstrue my meaning, I don't have a problem with killing coyotes. Shoot em to your hearts content. But they aren't evil and IMO they deserve our respect just like any other animal does. Matter of fact I respect them more than I do deer because they are predators and damn good ones at that so I feel a kinship with them I don't feel for prey animals.

But that's just me. It's ok to disagree. Feel free to rejoice in your blind hatred of one of natures finest designs. . .

It is what they were born to do.


Why the angst?

And deer were born to be prey. Ugly the way it works out but I think there's more than a little anthropomorphism in that. Certainly for the anti-hunters and assorted tree huggers.

Since I insist on being the alpha predator, around my house, I would shoot them! But that's just my way.

Coyotes can only act out of instinct, people need not and are capable of weighing the equities. Not saying don't shoot them, here in farm country they are competitors, just know why.

Drive up the mountain past Cloudcroft headed east.

When you get to Mayhill turn right and go up to Miller's Flats. Keep going to Weed, and then circle around through Sacramento, Timberon, and back to Cloudcroft from there.

Let us know how many deer you see on that circle.

Don't give me that BS about coyotes and deer living in harmony. It's about numbers. When coyote numbers get high, deer numbers get low. The area up there, they have been dangerously low. Anyone that has been in YOUR area for a long enough period of time have seen deer populations dwindle to the dangerously low levels. Why do you think NMGF went to a draw?

It's a matter of whether you want lots of deer or lots of predators. Since you say you prefer the predators, then fine. That's your opinion, and you are welcome to it. But with what you typed above with the coexisting, it makes you sound more like an anti-hunter than anyone else in this thread.

Gotta love this site. It's hilarious. Type anything that can be misconstrued even a bit against the tide and immediately get labeled one of the "other side". C'mon man, you're better than that.

Since you took what I said out of context, let me make it clear once again: respect coyotes for the predators they are. Doesn't mean you have to hate them. They are wonders of nature. Excellent predators, their design honed by thousands of years of success. There is a lot to admire there. Think about it, then shoot as many as you can. That's what I do. I didn't spend 500 dollars on a caller for nothing.

Yes coyotes and deer evolved together. The numbers and balance are off because of man's interference in the eco system so we now have to be the great equalizer and as the alpha predator it is now our responsibility, but it wasn't always that way. They did evolve together and didn't mutually self destruct when everything was in balance.

Things are different now, So yes, we should kill as many as we can but there is still no reason to hate them because they do what they were designed to do. They are just animals acting out of instinct with no malice intended. We humans on the other hand, for all our intellect, can and do act out of malice quite often.

We agree on respecting them, and not hating them.

I even felt remorse for killing them. Especially when I would kill 3-500 anually as a govt hunter. I didn't hate them atall.

They are excellent predators. More like "survivors and adapters", because they eat whatever they can. Not just kill.

I didn't mean that you were on the other side. But the coexisting you mention is one of the coyote hugger groups main sayings.

www.projectcoyote.org



Again, I don't think you are one of these nutjobs. But they are around. Especially in Las Cruces. I seen and had to deal with them there.

LOL, luckily I havent run into them yet because I don't run in their circles, but I was warned about them by a buddy who has lived here and out your way his whole life. I actually live directly across from a flaming lib who is a university professor here at the college. Surprisingly she’s actually a pretty decent person despite her political leanings. So far we’ve managed to avoid this particular topic though.

Shoot the coyotes. We're starting to get a bunch of them now and they've ruined my hunting spot. The problem we have in our neighborhood is the damn foxes. There were two litters living in old groundhog holes in my neighbor's back yard. One day I counted 9. I first saw them right about the time the deer were dropping fawns. The neighborhood turned into a killing field. In the past couple of months I counted carcasses of 4 fawns, 5 geese, a rabbit and a skunk around my house. One of my neighbors lost 8 chickens. Most of the foxes have moved on, but we still have a few hanging around and they now have mange. several of my neighbors are pushing me to shoot them, but there's too many houses. Plus you don't see them much in daylight hours now.

Knock the off and leave them lay in the field. Parents should show up eventually.

Used to see lots on that circle in the 80s. Even maybe into the 90s.

I love watching yote pups. They are fun to watch. I don't kill em all. Never have, likely never will. But we do keep em in check as needed. Other places than ours the numbers are so high that you shoot everyone you see, hoping to thin the numbers.

OTOH I"ve read some stuff, who knows if right or not, that the more you kill the more move in. Doesn't make sense to me. We have to kill a few every so many years, or they will start on our deer, and we have more deer now than we've ever had. But for the most part I know all of our local does and I have yet to see a fawn lost to a yote. IE missing. OTOH vehicles are hell on the deer and fawns.

Down were Barry lives, its that kind of country that you shoot em all, cause you probably won't see but 20% or so of whats really out there anyway.

a shame if the yotes have affected the mule deer there in NM. Never saw a yote while out there, but evidently thats changed.

Jeff, year there used to be LOTS of deer in that area.

Couple of things contributed to the declines we have now.

First thing was lots of predator control by the sheep and cattle ranchers in Otero County. There were lots of ranchers in the sheep business. Last I heard, there was only ONE left. They have been driven out for lack of predator control, same as the deer.

Second is that the most effective predator control was Compound 1080. When that was banned it resulted in major coyote population explosion. Compound 1080 was responsible for 80% of all coyote control.

80%

Another big factor in that neck of the woods are larger predators. Lions mostly.

Unlike Texas which doesn't regulate hunting lions, NMGF sells lion licenses by the thousands. It's about the money to them.

Back when there were plenty of deer up there in NM, you didn't shoot the first 10 point you saw. Because you'd probably see 3-4 bigger ones before the day was out.

Now it's hard to even find a legal buck in the 5 day season they give you.

Shoot all the coyotes you want, in the big picture it won't matter. Incidental shooting and recreational hunting has little effect on coyote populations long term overall. Also, to truly help deer the time to kill those coyotes is during the fawning time period and few people are hunting coyotes in spring and summer. To have a long term effect on coyotes you need to kill about 70% of the coyotes population and sustain that for five or more years. Incidental shooting and recreational hunters aren't going to do that. It feels good, like you're really saving some game animals by killing a coyote when you can, reality is that it really doesn't matter much.

If there are neither foxes nor coyotes in the area the skunks will move in fast.

Gotta love how you deliberately provoked a response with a post laced with contempt and then pounced on the reply. You exaggerated others' positions and feigned superiority over them. Awfully full of your self. Obviously, those previous hundreds of thousands of years didn't include the current U.S. population and reduced habitat for deer, but you conveniently included it in your followup here ... after you got the response you trolled for. Congratulations on your superior knowledge and discernment with which you graced us with. It certainly didn't in anyway challenge the veracity of any point I made in my post, nor in anyone else's. You go girl.