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I need to load some 300 Weatherby’s soon. I have one, buying another. I have at least 40 rounds loaded for my BLACK SHADOW 300 WM. I sighted it in last Winter with plans to hunt it some this season. With the new T3X 7 RM ready, I don’t know where the 300 stands right now. I like the 70 Black Shadow & 300 WM - it AIN’T goin nowhere!! Jerry
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The 7MM Rem. just doesn't give enough extra velocity over the 30-06 .270, .280 class of cartridges to justify the extra recoil and ammunition cost. if you want more penetration, " killing power" etc. The medium bores, (the .375's, .35 Whelen, 9.3X62, 9.3X64 or even the .338) make more sense. Besides after about about 1968 the 7 Mag. had become overwhelmingly boring to me.
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I'm late to the conversation about the subject, but have been hunting with my 7mm rem mag for a long time. Was given to me as a college grad gift. Bought the Browning Abolt II Medallion with the boss the first year the boss came out. I think in the early 90's. Was told the brake would help with recoil and the tuning and all that. I don't use the Boss anymore, well because basically its way to loud. I have been using the CR for a long time. Like others mentioned, I have dropped more deer with this rifle than any other in my safe. When I go, its my go to gun and roll on. However, this old shoulder is starting to feel it (old college baseball injury). I swear the Browning recoil pad must be made of granite. I just recently installed a limbsaver recoil pad for it but have yet to shoot it to feel the difference. But all things considered, I have had only 1 deer take more than 5 steps when hit with this gun. Also as others mentioned, it does have a long barrel. I'm in the process of having the local machinist make me a thread protector to cover the threads and remove the boss completely. Would cut down on 3" of basically unused barrel length and basically have a 24" barrel.
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When you consider power, availability of ammunition, it’s chambered by every manufacturer, is there is a better Norh American cartridge? If loaded with 120 or 140 grain bullets, it’s great for deer. If loaded with heavy bullets it will take any other North American game, even the big bears in a pinch. I don’t think there is a better cartridge unless it’s a 300 Win Mag or 338 Win mag, but some people can’t take the recoil. I’m a big fan, I have four of them. Agreed. I have 3 of them. Also like a 270WSM (have 2 of these) which has ballistics almost identical to the 7RM but just not as much variety of bullet weights for handloaders or as much ammo on the shelf at stores. Just recently acquired a like new Sako A7S (stainless fluted barrel ST stock) in 300WSM and i must say it shoots lights out and with the Zeiss Conquest DL i just put on it, it will be seeing a lot of field time this year!
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The 7MM Rem. just doesn't give enough extra velocity over the 30-06 .270, .280 class of cartridges to justify the extra recoil and ammunition cost. if you want more penetration, " killing power" etc. The medium bores, (the .375's, .35 Whelen, 9.3X62, 9.3X64 or even the .338) make more sense. Besides after about about 1968 the 7 Mag. had become overwhelmingly boring to me. A 162 grain bullet with a G1 of .631 started at 3100 fps gets it done, and gets it done for a long way. I don’t see much more recoil than my .30-06 loaded with 180 grain Partitions. P
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The 7 mag hits hard and will shoot a long way. It’s hard to beat!
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Has anyone been using or have tried the Hornady precision hunter 162 eld-x round? I'm thinking of trying these out.
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After years of listening and reading, I have come to the conclusion that the 7 Remington Magnum is in company with a lot of other cartridges. It is a fine cartridge and serves well, but is neither better than nor worse than any number of other cartridges in its same general class.
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The 7MM Rem. just doesn't give enough extra velocity over the 30-06 .270, .280 class of cartridges to justify the extra recoil and ammunition cost. if you want more penetration, " killing power" etc. The medium bores, (the .375's, .35 Whelen, 9.3X62, 9.3X64 or even the .338) make more sense. Besides after about about 1968 the 7 Mag. had become overwhelmingly boring to me. A 162 grain bullet with a G1 of .631 started at 3100 fps gets it done, and gets it done for a long way. I don’t see much more recoil than my .30-06 loaded with 180 grain Partitions. P Yes, Indeed. And a 140 HBTSP at 3300 fps ain't shabby either. ( a load I've been shooting & killing with for years) The 7 RM shoots better B C bullets at HIGHER velocities than the 270 and esp the 06. The subsequent flatter trajectory does show up past 300 yds. Jerry
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My go to bullet is the 160 Partition. Great performance on everything I've taken with it from Alaska/Yukon moose to Coues deer.
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The 7MM Rem. just doesn't give enough extra velocity over the 30-06 .270, .280 class of cartridges to justify the extra recoil and ammunition cost. if you want more penetration, " killing power" etc. The medium bores, (the .375's, .35 Whelen, 9.3X62, 9.3X64 or even the .338) make more sense. Besides after about about 1968 the 7 Mag. had become overwhelmingly boring to me. A 162 grain bullet with a G1 of .631 started at 3100 fps gets it done, and gets it done for a long way. I don’t see much more recoil than my .30-06 loaded with 180 grain Partitions. P Yes, Indeed. And a 140 HBTSP at 3300 fps ain't shabby either. ( a load I've been shooting & killing with for years) The 7 RM shoots better B C bullets at HIGHER velocities than the 270 and esp the 06. The subsequent flatter trajectory does show up past 300 yds.Jerry And reduced wind drift uncertainty, too...
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Jwall, in my old 7, I have a load that shot 3400fps.. Haven't checked it for a while, but it was checked a number of times... Shot in 3" high it shot a bit less than 24" at 500 yards.. I could still go up about a grain and a half.. We have killed everything from coyotes, antelope, mule deer, whitetails, elk, caribou through moose with this load.. I use 140 gr. BTBT.. Lately, I have been shooting a .270 quite a lot.. Great caliber, but a 7mm mag. it isn't..
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Has anyone been using or have tried the Hornady precision hunter 162 eld-x round? I'm thinking of trying these out. I use these bullets in my handloads. One big 6x6 bull, one big cow elk. One shot each, dead within feet of impact. I think the factory stuff is 120 FPS or so slower. That’s the load I was referencing in my earlier post. P
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Jwall, in my old 7, I have a load that shot 3400fps.. Haven't checked it for a while, but it was checked a number of times... Shot in 3" high it shot a bit less than 24" at 500 yards..
Lately, I have been shooting a .270 quite a lot.. [/b]Great caliber, but a 7mm mag. it isn't..[b] W C H - I have been very pleased with the 139 BTSP on WT. I've shot them as close as 12' straight down- out to as much as +/- 400 yds. The 270 Win is one of my favs and it ain't shabby but with 150-160 gr bullets the 7 RM is out in front. Most, I repeat, Most standard calibers CAN'T keep up with the Mighty, Magnificent 7 R Mag. Jerry
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After years of listening and reading, I have come to the conclusion that the 7 Remington Magnum is in company with a lot of other cartridges. It is a fine cartridge and serves well, but is neither better than nor worse than any number of other cartridges in its same general class. Reading is great but ...... Have you used the 7 R M much or at all ? The proof is in the USING. Jerry
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Has anyone been using or have tried the Hornady precision hunter 162 eld-x round? I'm thinking of trying these out. I use these bullets in my handloads. One big 6x6 bull, one big cow elk. One shot each, dead within feet of impact. I think the factory stuff is 120 FPS or so slower. That’s the load I was referencing in my earlier post. P Thanks. Must have missee that.
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I run a 280AI, 162 ELDX’s on top of a full case of RL26 and CCI 250’s. No need for a silly belt.
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Yeah them F Is is full of pixie dust. Amazing it is how fast a few grains is in a little more space. PRESSURE ? ? no matter Jerry
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I hear with sharper shoulders of an AI you can get suspenders that work just as well as belts. All depends on what’s in style I guess. 😜
Never did get to ask any dead animals if they knew if they were hit by a 30-06, 7mm Mag, 270.....etc. thinking all they ever knew was that they were hit.
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