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MM... no bound and determined about it, my good man!
I just got an email reply from my PH, who says Zim has a minimum 7mm caliber requirement for Zebra and smaller critters. But furthermore, the 270 is considered a 7mm since 6.8 mm “rounds up” in whole numbers to 7mm! Gotta love the arcane legal reasoning of these old British colonies, what?
Any roads, I’m thinking we’ll try a Ruger #1 in 270 or 7X57, or both, and see how the memsahib does with it/them. Have a .270 as well, though it is a #1B, with the 26" medium weight barrel.
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.270 Ingwe? You owe me a keyboard!!!!
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yes, the magical .270 Ingwe
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Actually, the 270 Ingwe is a 7x57 necked down to .277 diameter... I wanted to call it the 6.8mm Ingwe, but was overruled...
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The 140 gr TSX out of my 270 Win works at 250 yards on elk. My last PH, just a month or so ago in Namibia, was worrisome on simple plains game (kudu and mountain zebra being the largest) when I mentioned bringing my 270 Win Montana. He wanted bigger. I brought a 50's vintage FN Supreme 30-06 hand loaded with the 168 gr TSX and all was good. First time hunting with the 30-06.
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.270 Ingwe? You owe me a keyboard!!!! Some pics of the .270 Ingwe. On the left is a .277" 130 grain Sierra flat base and on the right,is a .277" 160 grain Nosler Partition. Will be ordering a .270 Ingwe reamer in the next two weeks or so.
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How does it perform?? Ballistics??
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Don't know,it is in the early stages i.e. a reamer (will order the reamer next week) is going to be made then a rifle will be barreled. I'm going to use the standard 1-10" twist and have it throated for the 160 grain Nosler Partition in the above picture,which is 3.163" COAL. . As far as how it will perform,well,it will kill anything I shoot at as long as I place the bullet in the vital organs. Not trying to be a smart azz,but I'm just beginning to get the ball rolling.
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Is that kind of like a 7x57?
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Yes EdM,it is just a 7mm Mauser case necked down to take a .277" bullet with no other changes to the case design.
Going to send a dummy round and sized as case to PTG today,to have the reamer made.
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Yes EdM,it is just a 7mm Mauser case necked down to take a .277" bullet with no other changes to the case design.
Going to send a dummy round and sized as case to PTG today,to have the reamer made. I already know the answer, but why don't you just shoot a 7x57? 7mm-08? or just load down your 270 Win?
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I own 3-7x57's and just want to be different.
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I know, I know, I looked very seriously at building a 270-08 at one time.... Then came to my senses and bought a couple 7mm-08's. Maybe I should turn in my looney card.
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I own 3-7x57's and just want to be different.
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Ingwe,maybe this will help....
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I know, I know, I looked very seriously at building a 270-08 at one time.... Then came to my senses and bought a couple 7mm-08's. Maybe I should turn in my looney card. What can I say,some have it,some don't.
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My Beloved runs with a Merkel K3 Stutzen in 7x57r topped with a VX6 1-6. With 175gr bullets, she's good to go for anything up to Zebra...and maybe Eland with the right shot. Admitedly, the recoil is a bit stout with 175's given the Merkel tips in at 6# 4 oz scoped. The positive is that she can carry it all day without an issue. Good luck and remember, getting the wife exactly what she wants is a GREAT way to make sure you get what you want!
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MM... no bound and determined about it, my good man!
I just got an email reply from my PH, who says Zim has a minimum 7mm caliber requirement for Zebra and smaller critters. But furthermore, the 270 is considered a 7mm since 6.8 mm “rounds up” in whole numbers to 7mm! Gotta love the arcane legal reasoning of these old British colonies, what?
Any roads, I’m thinking we’ll try a Ruger #1 in 270 or 7X57, or both, and see how the memsahib does with it/them. Actually, Doc, if you multiply the .277 bullet diameter by 25.4, it converts to 7.0358 mm, so the .270 actually is a true 7mm. Our "7mm" .284 diameter converts to 7.2136 mm. I found the conversion tables here: http://www.irrigationglobal.com/contents/en-us/d265_inch2mm_mm2inch.html So, as good as the 6.5 Creedmoor is, it's really a 6.7056 mm and not legal under their rules that require a 7mm or larger. I would think a .270, .280 (!) 7mm-08 or anything that shoots a .270 or larger bullet could work well. I really do like your idea of having her shoot the Savage 99s. If she likes the .308 and handles it well, she may be able to step up to the .358.
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B.B., that’s some interesting arithmetic you got there, and it’s true!
Whatever, it looks like we are going to try the Savage 99 route first, then try the 7X57in a Ruger #1.
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Do BOTH! Far be it from me to dissuade anyone from a new rifle! If you get her a #1, it may even have one of those ol' swirly-lookin W-word (walnut) stocks on it!
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