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Campfire Savant
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I wouldn’t have anything but a Diesel, I have a 2004, best truck I’ve ever owned. I’m going to buy a new Dodge in another couple of months. I’m keeping the 2004 as a spare vehicle.
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Campfire Ranger
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If you don't need a diesel I would keep looking for a gas engine. The diesel will just cost you more in the end, everything is just more expensive on a diesel. Thus ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^when you really come face to face with all the facts. Diesel only if you really need one which you, most assuredly, do not. MM You are,most assuredly, looking at a mighty fine truck but listen to these two men.
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Campfire Member
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Another option with the gas vs diesel is the available unlimited mileage/age bumper to bumper warranty you can get thru Chrysler. It's available on any new or under 4 year old/48k miles Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep rig. As long as the repair doesn't go over the blue book its covered. If you keep vehicles a long time it's definitely nice. Only downside is you can't get it for diesels or fleet vehicles.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Look at the crew cab Silverados. I know, I know, you had a really bad experience with a POS avalanche lol but they are worth a look and a test drive. The back seats have lots and lots of room.
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Campfire Ranger
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Except for the brakes, my 2000 f250 has been a good truck. It pulls great with a v10 and 5sp.
I keep my eyes open for a newer crew cab model. An 07 or 08 v10 with a 6sp and 4:30 rear end would be a great tow vehicle with out dealing with a diesel.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Those V10’s sip fuel! LOL
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Campfire Outfitter
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Thanks guys. I was pretty sure I was going to keep looking for a gasser but this confirms it. Like I said, I don't pull anything that requires a Diesel motor.
Horse1 makes some great points as well. I can get it up to operating temps on my drive to work, it's about 25 miles or so. But there is a bunch of short commutes to sports kid pick ups.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Yep! You really don't need a diesel. They are great for towing a lot of weight though. Lots of torque. You might want to stay away from black. Difficult color to maintain. The 5.7 and 6.4 Hemis are great motors.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Look at the crew cab Silverados. I know, I know, you had a really bad experience with a POS avalanche lol but they are worth a look and a test drive. The back seats have lots and lots of room. Nope. Lol
Camp is where you make it.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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The 5.7 and 6.4 Hemis are great motors.
I have the 5.7 now. In a 2500 I’d want a bit more. I have heard good things about the 6.4.
Camp is where you make it.
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Campfire Regular
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Campfire Regular
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Go with the 5.7 hemi or 6.4 hemi verses the diesel..I have the 6.4 hemi in my 2016 Ram 2500 plenty of AZZ..
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Campfire Outfitter
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Always a hoot when people get the talking about pulling power and different Motors but totally forget about the rear end gearing
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Those V10’s sip fuel! LOL About like I "sip" beer! But hell, gas is cheap if you aint hauling all the time. Cheaper than beer anyway!
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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This would be a go to work truck, haul the kids to sports truck, haul boat/atv's/camper on the weekend, hunting trip truck. We are going to camp more and haul a camper, but nothing that I need a diesel to pull. I'm not hauling cars, horse trailers, skid steers around or anything like that.
It's for me. She's got a Honda Pilot we are quite fond of. I'm surprised how much I like that little rig. I would get the diesel for the work load you describe. Depends on the camper.
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Campfire Outfitter
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While you might easily rationalize the diesel, I would never buy another black vehicle.
"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
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Campfire Outfitter
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All of the other reasons you don't need one would still have me choosing the Diesel, but the extreme cold you see there would make me choose a gasser. This is from an "I'll always have a diesel" person.
Good luck with your search.
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Campfire Tracker
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I've got a '15 Dodge 3500 SRW with the 6.7. I like it a lot, but I also have the security of a 100k mile driveline warranty. Like folks are saying, the repair costs can EAT YOU ALIVE. It's not hard to drop $5-$10k on diesel repairs. If you don't need a diesel, then it would be best to go gas. The days of cheap diesel fuel and 22mpg are over. Most do 17-18 at best. When you're paying 20% more for fuel, then getting 18 mpg, vs 15mpg in a gasser, isn't an improvement.
Most gasser's can go 200k/250k miles these days. The only other benefit of a diesel, resale, is already negated if you are buying used.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Those V10’s sip fuel! LOL About like I "sip" beer! But hell, gas is cheap if you aint hauling all the time. Cheaper than beer anyway! Yea, what’s up with that!
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Campfire 'Bwana
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While you might easily rationalize the diesel, I would never buy another black vehicle. That’s the truth if I can help it. I’m not real picky on vehicle color but the one I have now is a charcoal metallic. Shows EVERYTHING!!
Camp is where you make it.
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Campfire Tracker
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Those V10’s sip fuel! LOL Bullshit. They guzzle. Can pass anything but a gas station.
Fight fire, save lives, laugh in the face of danger.
Stupid always finds a way.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Those V10’s sip fuel! LOL Bullshit. They guzzle. Can pass anything but a gas station. Hence the "LOL" LOL
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
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