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Sweet.. Eagle I don’t think the targets matter a bit so long as people follow the rules on how to shoot them
Do these need to be tacticool swat team rifles only? Do we have to add .250 to any group shot with a wood stocked affair?
I’m gonna shoot my .222 but wear my p220 in my thigh holster when I do it so I think that should count Just tape a flashlight to the side of the rifle....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Sweet.. Eagle I don’t think the targets matter a bit so long as people follow the rules on how to shoot them
Do these need to be tacticool swat team rifles only? Do we have to add .250 to any group shot with a wood stocked affair?
I’m gonna shoot my .222 but wear my p220 in my thigh holster when I do it so I think that should count Wood gets you points for style. All practical (away from bench) rifles are welcome.
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Targets were fine, I just need to buy another high powered scope. I have 1-4's and a 1-6 right now but I do have a spare mount.
Humbling it is but don't get so wrapped in accuracy that you forget a 2 MOA rifle in field conditions is better than a 1 MOA rifle strapped to a lead sled. Field conditions. BTDT in the Carl Ross positional match. Not a lot of competitors there. Got a lot of lip smacking from a few high up members, but they never shot...... : Lead sleds are for puzzies... What are the diameter of the circles? Any info or link to the rules on that one?
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Targets were fine, I just need to buy another high powered scope. I have 1-4's and a 1-6 right now but I do have a spare mount.
Humbling it is but don't get so wrapped in accuracy that you forget a 2 MOA rifle in field conditions is better than a 1 MOA rifle strapped to a lead sled. Field conditions. BTDT in the Carl Ross positional match. Not a lot of competitors there. Got a lot of lip smacking from a few high up members, but they never shot...... : Lead sleds are for puzzies... What are the diameter of the circles? Any info or link to the rules on that one? That was shot at the beginning of this year and I believe would be the high score (19/20). I never even posted that target because the thread is old and there was not a lot of interest in the shoot. Mainly Formid, Carl, Prarie goat, Deflave and myself shot the event. Guys like steelhead flapped their damned lips (as per usual), but never threw up any targets... Great question mr mountain... Here's the link to that shoot: Carl Ross positional drill "postal" matchIt's a timed event and is a little challenging. I about half wore myself out the first couple times doing it. Great practice for those of us that like shooting in different "field" positions.... One thing about it, You need to be selective about what rifles you use, because the big heavies will wear you out.... I posted scores and targets from just about every dang new "hunting" rifle I bought around that time. It's also a great way to weed out the ones that don't fit you well in different positions and the ones you don't shoot as well. Trust me, after running a rifle through this event, you'll find out which ones are good, which ones are great, as well as ones that are absolute dogs.... Give it a try, even if you don't post results. It's excellent practice.... By the way, I believe mr. Pat Sinclair tried this shoot, but did not complete it (no score) or use Carl's targets. Like i said, big heavies will get you...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Thanks, BSA! I'll try it this weekend. Makes alot more sense than shooting a hunting rifle off a bench.
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It's fun practice man. I like running that drill right before hunting season starts.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Targets were fine, I just need to buy another high powered scope. I have 1-4's and a 1-6 right now but I do have a spare mount.
Humbling it is but don't get so wrapped in accuracy that you forget a 2 MOA rifle in field conditions is better than a 1 MOA rifle strapped to a lead sled. Field conditions. BTDT in the Carl Ross positional match. Not a lot of competitors there. Got a lot of lip smacking from a few high up members, but they never shot...... : Lead sleds are for puzzies... What are the diameter of the circles? Any info or link to the rules on that one? That was shot at the beginning of this year and I believe would be the high score (19/20). I never even posted that target because the thread is old and there was not a lot of interest in the shoot. Mainly Formid, Carl, Prarie goat, Deflave and myself shot the event. Guys like steelhead flapped their damned lips (as per usual), but never threw up any targets... Great question mr mountain... Here's the link to that shoot: Carl Ross positional drill "postal" matchIt's a timed event and is a little challenging. I about half wore myself out the first couple times doing it. Great practice for those of us that like shooting in different "field" positions.... One thing about it, You need to be selective about what rifles you use, because the big heavies will wear you out.... I posted scores and targets from just about every dang new "hunting" rifle I bought around that time. It's also a great way to weed out the ones that don't fit you well in different positions and the ones you don't shoot as well. Trust me, after running a rifle through this event, you'll find out which ones are good, which ones are great, as well as ones that are absolute dogs.... Give it a try, even if you don't post results. It's excellent practice.... By the way, I believe mr. Pat Sinclair tried this shoot, but did not complete it (no score) or use Carl's targets. Like i said, big heavies will get you... The walking douchebag strikes again.
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. Jimmy, thinking this wasn't 3 inch groups. LOL
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Jeff, Dig your jacket and glove out of the closet, your groups would probably tighten up a bit.
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I always put the most work into 300 yard ammo. You loose the most the fastest there. At 600 you only loose it one shot at a time. At 300 you loose or gain 10 at a time and its much less forgiving than 200 At Perry on the 300 yard line I shot a 98 in the P-100, a 99 in the NTI, and cleaned it in the six man team. Also shot a 99-5x at 600 in the P-100. Shot a 9 on the first shot and cleaned it from there. Would have made the cut if I could shoot on my feet. Ordered a SCATT trainer and will have to start putting some serious effort in it. Also cleaned a couple of 300 yard 10 shot strings at Atterbury including a 100-7X. A little easier there with sighters and not having to stand.
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Not having to stand? I guess I've been gone to long. Scopes. Not standing etc...
But thats good shooting at 300 really. IMHO once I got really solid at all the other lines the offhand came together too. Seemed like rimfire silhouette did good for cross training for us for offhand years ago. But mostly offhand is knowing when to take the shot or make the attempt a second or third time instead.
Never got higher than 8x at 200 or 300 for me. Can't even recall the X counts at 600 anymore. Probably not more than 15. Standing I sucked at. May have shot a 99 string out of 20 once. Can't recall shooting higher than 97 in 10 or 193 or so in 20
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You still have to stand for CMP. There is not much difference in 300 prone, but not having to stand from sitting has made a difference. To stay competitive in the big matches cannot afford to drop any points in rapids.
I do love the scopes, no issue seeing, but the scores are going up, especially as we learn to shoot them better. To LEG out now it is going to take solid 480 plus scores. The cutoff at Perry was a 479 with around 10Xs. The weather was good but so is the equipment.
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What is that on your rear sight? It looks brown? Can’t really see the target holes that well. Hope you get free to shoot it again.
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What is that on your rear sight? Looks like some of mother natures thread locker.
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its white paint on the rear base and sight with a fine black vertical line so that I can see if its centered for windage zero or not at a glance. Also have paint marks on the rear to verify elevation and windage settings.
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Oh yeah holes are hard to see cause I didn't shoot 10 shots. LOL
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Despite all the development of the black guns and ammo being used by the hot shots in the military teams, it took a scoped M16 to finally break the old record in the Interservice set by a Marine with his M14 - 995-50X.
Jeff, you are right, I still remember when you stuck it to that New Yorker at Camp Perry, yours was the only clean at 600 in the NTI - 200-14X.
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This challenge is designed to test your skills as well as your equipment. I will keep up with the rankings as we go along. Please read and follow the rules or your entry may not count. The Rules:ALL targets must be shot from 100 yards. 20 rounds will be scored, flyers included. The rifle can be shot from any position as long as the shooter is supporting the rifle. Bipods, slings, and rear bags are ok to use. NO bench rest, lead sleds, or machine rest may be used.All 20 rounds must be fired on the same day, from the same rifle. Iron Sights will fire two 10 shot groups at the reduced 600 yard NRA targets. Scoped rifles will fire two 10 shot groups at the target listed below (different targets are ok, just make sure both groups are on the same piece of paper) Iron sighted rifles and scoped rifles will be ranked separately. Please have your post in this Order:1) Picture of rifle and setup. 2) Picture of 100 yard range. 3) Picture of target (optics) or targets (irons) with 20 rounds through them. (place calipers or ruler laying over one group for reference) 4) Description of rifle and ammo used. 5) For optics, list your group sizes and the average. For Iron sights, please list the group size and score. Optics Target: Scoped Rifle Target Iron Sights Target: NRA MR-31Please sign each target with your 24HC name and date. Thanks. Found it, would there be anything wrong with firing 20 rounds with your scoped rifle then pulling the scope and firing 20 with the irons? Now i have to figure out what size a reduced target is, cant PDF?
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Gunner I don’t see why that would be a problem at all, as long as you shot 10 and 10, then 10 and 10 again. As for the targets it’s pretty lax to which targets you use. I don’t think anybody cares, as long as it’s two targets that can both be seen together at once and not two individual targets photographed separately ya know...? Shoot em up and have fun is what it was all about
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Yep, have at it. You can use whatever target you like. The MR-31 in the link was a good size for me with irons but use whatever gives you the best sight picture.
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