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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Did any North American Indian tribes ever invent the wheel?


Yeah, they had the wheel but there wasn’t much use for it because for most of their existence they didn’t have any domesticated animals suitable for pulling carts. You can’t tame bison, there were no horses, deer can’t pull a cart. Only in the far far south did they have llamas and alpacas, but in the terrain of the Andes, they were better suited as pack animals than they were pulling carts.

I dunno, I've seen pics of a guy on a buffalo. laugh


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Go read all the stories about the graves of giants, with some photographs that they found in the 19th Century. And many of the Indian tribes have legends about having to defeat tribes of giants and the like when they moved into the area.


Apparently the Smithsonian is sitting on a lot of this material.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Did any North American Indian tribes ever invent the wheel?


Been to the medicine wheel.

Apparently, they knew how a wheel worked.

Travois was more efficient, for their purposes.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Steel and concrete might not be in the form of buildings after 500 years, but they'd still be there.


It wouldn’t completely disappear but our concrete wouldn’t do as well as you think. Until very recently, it was markedly inferior to Roman concrete.


My parents worked 5 years in Abu Dhabi. The Arabs were tearing down high rises that were only 30 years old. In their rush to build the high rises, they didn't bother to use desalinated water. Both the concrete was severely compromised and the structural steel and especially the rebar was rusting.

Even taller high rises were built in their place, this time using desalinated water.

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It wouldn’t completely disappear but our concrete wouldn’t do as well as you think. Until very recently, it was markedly inferior to Roman concrete.


I don't know how or what the difference is but the concrete that the WPA used, was a lot better than the concrete the Highway Department was using when I worked for the ARDOT (name now). miles


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Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Some of you might be interested in this https://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelat...814658&sr=8-1&keywords=1491+book

Personally, I think the author has a bit of an agenda about the subject, but check it out if you think there might have been huge cities in pre-Columbian America.


https://www.amazon.com/America-B-C-Ancient-Settlers-Revised/dp/0671679740

That is an update of a book I read at least 35 years ago with an impressive bit of evidence for whites coming up the Red River and finding evidence of Indians and Druids...


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Did any North American Indian tribes ever invent the wheel?


The principle of the wheel was discovered not invented.


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Originally Posted by Starman
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Did any North American Indian tribes ever invent the wheel?


The principle of the wheel was discovered not invented.


I can see it now: Brave comes riding up in a cart behind his pony "Look what I invented, Heap Big Chief!"
"You not invent that! You had help, only because they help, you build!"

Ds dicing semantics since the Stone Age.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Did any North American Indian tribes ever invent the wheel?


The principle of the wheel was discovered not invented.


I can see it now: Brave comes riding up in a cart behind his pony "Look what I invented, Heap Big Chief!"
"You not invent that! You had help, only because they help, you build!"

Ds dicing semantics since the Stone Age.
It appears that guns were discovered, not invented. Burning powder has always produced an expanding gas. A soft metal object stuffed through a tube produces pressure. Anything the soft metal object hits will die if you yell BANG loud enough. Those are scientific laws that have always existed.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
..]It appears that guns were discovered, not invented. Burning powder has always produced an expanding gas.
A soft metal object stuffed through a tube produces pressure. Anything the soft metal object hits will die if you yell BANG loud enough.
Those are scientific laws that have always existed.


How did you jump to man made purpose built complex mechanisms like guns and combustible chemical formulas
developed in a lab, from a naturally occurring very simple principle wheel?

The principle of the wheel [and actual basic models of such] existed before man discovered such
and then implemented in their inventions.

if you are happy to be a fool that believes other wise , thats your choice...you are a zero evidence based
Noahs Ark believer after All, which shows how irrational and highly subjective you can be.

Brainwashed subjective mind Creationists who try to explain objective mind science and physics...;cringe.
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the INCLINED PLANE like the wheel is another of whats termed a SIMPLE MACHINE that occurs in nature.
but maybe Chucky can tell us who 'invented' the I-P.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer


Ds dicing semantics since the Stone Age.


To a bonehead bubba cop it needs to be explained...

Two commonly known and termed 'simple machines' like the wheel and inclined plane
already occurred in nature before man used them....One cannot then legitimately claim 'invention' of such.

The Wright brothers also did not 'invent' flight....for it had been occurring in nature for many millions of years.


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Originally Posted by Starman
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Ds dicing semantics since the Stone Age.


To a bonehead bubba cop it needs to be explained...

Two commonly known and termed 'simple machines' like the wheel and inclined plane
already uncured in nature before man used them....One cannot then legitimately claim 'invention' of such.

The Wright brothers also did not 'invent' flight....for it had been occurring in nature for many millions of years.



Uncured, as opposed to cured?

Bonehead bubba, glass house. You’re welcome.




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Originally Posted by Pharmseller



Uncured, as opposed to cured?



no bubba boy (cop?) , I meant to type occurred

eg;"..the wheel and inclined plane already occurred in nature before man used them.."

if you can fit cured into that , it explains why you are a cop.

I only made a keystroke error causing the computer to prompt a different word and auto insert it.
You however have no sense of rational vocabulary to recognise a simple one off chance error...
...instead you see your chance to play the petty spellcheck cop....LOL


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Gawd that would suck if it was your land.

I was wondering about that...can you imagine having a section of wheat, headed out and ready for the combine and have the absent minded professor come up and ask to begin digging holes all up and down your property...

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