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1. The border is the middle of the Rio Grande for 1200 miles..... more than half it’s length.
2. Except for Big Bend Natl Park, the land on the northern bank of the river is privately owned. Acquiring title thru eminent domain litigation would take years of courtroom activity.
3. Building the wall on the US side of the river cedes ownership of the river to Mexico and deprives OUR wildlife in that area access to water.
Now...... was Trump ignorant of these factors when he campaigned on building “ a big, beautiful, wall the length of the border” or was he just counting on YOUR ignorance?
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Did you cut and paste this from the last bitch session?
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I suspect that a wall and do-nothing Congress is the plan for reelection.
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We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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I suspect that a wall and do-nothing Congress is the plan for reelection. Do you feel a border wall from Brownsville to Del Rio would benefit the United States?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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1. The border is the middle of the Rio Grande for 1200 miles..... more than half it’s length.
2. Except for Big Bend Natl Park, the land on the northern bank of the river is privately owned. Acquiring title thru eminent domain litigation would take years of courtroom activity.
3. Building the wall on the US side of the river cedes ownership of the river to Mexico and deprives OUR wildlife in that area access to water.
Now...... was Trump ignorant of these factors when he campaigned on building “ a big, beautiful, wall the length of the border” or was he just counting on YOUR ignorance? Do you feel a border wall from Brownsville to Del Rio would benefit the United States?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The wall would be porous at best. The entire modern Southwest was mostly built by Spanish-speaking men -- reckon they wouldn't know the flaws??
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The wall would be porous at best. The entire modern Southwest was mostly built by Spanish-speaking men -- reckon they wouldn't know the flaws??
Your neighbors to the west found personnel and vehicle barriers to be largely beneficial. Do you feel a border wall from Brownsville to Del Rio would benefit the United States?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Do you feel a border wall from Brownsville to Del Rio would benefit the United States?
I do. It seemed to work for the Israelis.
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The Rio Grande is already over allocated but I do realize how important water is in the desert. Times have changed and farming and ranching in areas of little to no water seems silly. Eminent domain can be fast tracked since this is a matter of public safety and national security. It seems that the border ranchers would prefer getting vandalized repeatedly, lose stock and fear for their own safety on their own property instead of supporting REAL solutions to a problem that’s plagued this country for a hundred years or more. We’re only one liberal democrat president away from open borders and the end of our nation as we know it.
We’ve built desalination plants, we’ve built aqueducts, we’ve created large “man made” reservoirs, we’ve done massive public works projects that have had tremendously positive impacts on our country and her citizens. The wall is merely one more massive public works project that will not only benefit the local farmers and ranchers but it’ll make the entire country safer.
National security and the internal security of our nation trumps everything. If we have to build the wall on our side and cede the river to Mexico then so be it. Tariffs, taxes, and other ways of collecting money from Mexico can be used to offset the loss of water. Use the money we get from those taxes and tariffs to build desalination plant/s, aqueducts and reservoirs. It’d be beneficial to the infrastructure of the United States and it’d be a great and giant works project for AMERICANS........ good paying JOBS.
Or build it on the Mexican side under military protection in a DMZ style setup.
A nation without borders is not a nation. So whatever we do it has to be meaningful and lasting. The idea of one continuous wall might not be feasible but however it’s done it would at least congregate and funnel the border jumpers to areas where border patrol could concentrate on. Video, sensors, drones and all of our modern technologies could add layers of surveillance and protection that were previously unavailable.
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or because nobody ever intends to actually build one. You gotta be the sort of mental deficient they are pandering to, in order to believe any talk of building a wall.
But, if they were to, all they'd have to do is get all the Republican grannies on the 'fire to go down there and take turns emptying the sand from their vaginas down the line. There'd be a barrier no Mexican would cross in no time.
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1. The border is the middle of the Rio Grande for 1200 miles..... more than half it’s length.
2. Except for Big Bend Natl Park, the land on the northern bank of the river is privately owned. Acquiring title thru eminent domain litigation would take years of courtroom activity.
3. Building the wall on the US side of the river cedes ownership of the river to Mexico and deprives OUR wildlife in that area access to water.
Now...... was Trump ignorant of these factors when he campaigned on building “ a big, beautiful, wall the length of the border” or was he just counting on YOUR ignorance? Do you feel a border wall from Brownsville to Del Rio would benefit the United States? Sure.... as long as it’s built on the Mexican side of the River, take it all the way to the Pacific. Or.... we could penalize employers who hire illegal workers. Then we could haul Mexican drug runners to Gitmo. Those illegals charged with a serious crime on US soil could be sent there as well. Try both classes in the Military Tribunals Jag is so fond of.
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The Rio Grande is already over allocated but I do realize how important water is in the desert. Times have changed and farming and ranching in areas of little to no water seems silly. Eminent domain can be fast tracked since this is a matter of public safety and national security. It seems that the border ranchers would prefer getting vandalized repeatedly, lose stock and fear for their own safety on their own property instead of supporting REAL solutions to a problem that’s plagued this country for a hundred years or more. We’re only one liberal democrat president away from open borders and the end of our nation as we know it.
We’ve built desalination plants, we’ve built aqueducts, we’ve created large “man made” reservoirs, we’ve done massive public works projects that have had tremendously positive impacts on our country and her citizens. The wall is merely one more massive public works project that will not only benefit the local farmers and ranchers but it’ll make the entire country safer.
National security and the internal security of our nation trumps everything. If we have to build the wall on our side and cede the river to Mexico then so be it. Tariffs, taxes, and other ways of collecting money from Mexico can be used to offset the loss of water. Use the money we get from those taxes and tariffs to build desalination plant/s, aqueducts and reservoirs. It’d be beneficial to the infrastructure of the United States and it’d be a great and giant works project for AMERICANS........ good paying JOBS.
Or build it on the Mexican side under military protection in a DMZ style setup.
A nation without borders is not a nation. So whatever we do it has to be meaningful and lasting. The idea of one continuous wall might not be feasible but however it’s done it would at least congregate and funnel the border jumpers to areas where border patrol could concentrate on. Video, sensors, drones and all of our modern technologies could add layers of surveillance and protection that were previously unavailable. Well said. Thank you.
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The Rio Grande is already over allocated but I do realize how important water is in the desert. Times have changed and farming and ranching in areas of little to no water seems silly. Eminent domain can be fast tracked since this is a matter of public safety and national security. It seems that the border ranchers would prefer getting vandalized repeatedly, lose stock and fear for their own safety on their own property instead of supporting REAL solutions to a problem that’s plagued this country for a hundred years or more. We’re only one liberal democrat president away from open borders and the end of our nation as we know it.
We’ve built desalination plants, we’ve built aqueducts, we’ve created large “man made” reservoirs, we’ve done massive public works projects that have had tremendously positive impacts on our country and her citizens. The wall is merely one more massive public works project that will not only benefit the local farmers and ranchers but it’ll make the entire country safer.
National security and the internal security of our nation trumps everything. If we have to build the wall on our side and cede the river to Mexico then so be it. Tariffs, taxes, and other ways of collecting money from Mexico can be used to offset the loss of water. Use the money we get from those taxes and tariffs to build desalination plant/s, aqueducts and reservoirs. It’d be beneficial to the infrastructure of the United States and it’d be a great and giant works project for AMERICANS........ good paying JOBS.
Or build it on the Mexican side under military protection in a DMZ style setup.
A nation without borders is not a nation. So whatever we do it has to be meaningful and lasting. The idea of one continuous wall might not be feasible but however it’s done it would at least congregate and funnel the border jumpers to areas where border patrol could concentrate on. Video, sensors, drones and all of our modern technologies could add layers of surveillance and protection that were previously unavailable. Good post. I'd rather take 10-20 miles from Mexico in payment of the wall and all the problems that gov has perpetuated by allowing their citizens to come over the border to damage our economy and do crimes. Let the displaced gripe to their Mexican lords. Invasions have consequences.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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If we were to occupy Mexico, the wall could be a lot shorter.
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You’re pretty quick to give away land that belongs to other citizens, aren’t you Ace?
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If we were to occupy Mexico, the wall could be a lot shorter. Ideally we would have a 50 mile no man's land south of the Rio Grande and the rest of the Mexican border... and patrol it with drones, armed choppers,,,, we take over Mexico, then we would have all of those people being American citizens which is exactly all the democRATs want.... they could care less about our nation.. all they care about is the control of government by their party.... they are just the latest chapter of what was once called communists... They want Globalization of the World as they see themselves controlling that also... if American companies took over Mexico's economy, that alone would slow them from illegally crossing the border... that and end the welfare Disneyland of the democRATS and leftists...
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My preferred solution is for the US to allow Texas to peacefully secede. Then y’all can build a wall along the Red River.
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You’re pretty quick to give away land that belongs to other citizens, aren’t you Ace? TVA ring a bell?
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