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My mk-85 shoots the .429 300gr xtp's real well over 100gr of pyrodex. Hopefully get a chance at a cow elk in NM in December. Think this bullet is up to the task or should I look at a No Excuse or different sabot?

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Originally Posted by Phoneman
My mk-85 shoots the .429 300gr xtp's real well over 100gr of pyrodex. Hopefully get a chance at a cow elk in NM in December. Think this bullet is up to the task or should I look at a No Excuse or different sabot?
if the XTP shoots well in your gun use it , it'll hammer elk.

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According to Hodgdon you will be getting between 1600fps to 1650fps with 100gr of Pyrodex and a 300gr bullet.
http://ns.hodgdon.com/PDF/muzzleloading_manual_2008.pdf?CHECKBOX_1=on

Thats around 1700fpe at the muzzle. Pretty similar to a 454 Casull. If you want to stay around 1000fpe the load is good till 150y+ if the claimed .245BC is close. The BC sounds a bit high to me at that speed but it should be good to 100y+ without a problem. The 300gr DeepCurl is a better bullet but i would imagine the XTP will be just fine at that speed.

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ordered some 460gr no excuses today. Heck with the sabot deal. I know that big bullet will do work!

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Those XTPs are a hammer on deer, no doubt, and what I'll probably carry during our paltry week-long ML season in my Strike. If ever I hunt elk, I'll likely pack a Barnes T-Ez or maybe one of the bonded Swifts. That said, it's hard to argue with a 460gr anything!

Best of luck on your hunt.


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i'll be loaded with the 300 xtp's next week when out muzzleloader season comes in for deer. Shots will be close and I have no doubt they will hammer a deer or hog. I just wanted to optimize my chances of a clean kill on an elk. Hopefully the 460's shoot well in my rifle. I love big heavy lead slugs in my 45/70 and 45 colts.

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I have two elk with the .45 cal 300 XTP, both one shot pass through with expansion. As long as you aren't looking to have it shoot past 150-200 yards you will be fine.

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I shot the no excuses yesterday over 90gr of black mz with no11 cci mag. I was impressed. See if a deer cooperates this weekend and see what it does to one.

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Originally Posted by harrierwood
I have two elk with the .45 cal 300 XTP, both one shot pass through with expansion. As long as you aren't looking to have it shoot past 150-200 yards you will be fine.


Which version? There are two different 300 grain .45 cal XTP handgun bullets, one someone lightly jacketed for the .45 colt, one with a much heavier jacket for the .454 and .460. You can tell them apart because one has a single cannelure, the other has two.

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I am going after cow elk with my 10.5" Super Blackhawk this weekend. 240 XTP at 1600 fps. No worries. I used the same xtp with a sabot in my muzzleloader at that velocity some years ago, no problems.


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old 460 no excuse handled business on this doe at 96yds. Nice pass through with not much meat damage. What I expected. Should have plenty of penetration for an elk

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I've had XTPs go 18" through hogs. They are the thickest thing I've shot, but I'd say that's pretty fair penetation. Should do for elk


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